Serbs destroyed Yugoslavia - The Death of Yugoslavia

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  1. AGS

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    Do I smell propaganda? You seem to neglect the Greater Albania that existed in the Ottoman Empire and how the albanians had kosovo,macedonia and epirus greece and parts of montenegro as their territory ruling as muslims suppressing the christians....

    Even the Roman Catholics never had sympathy with the eastern orthodox christians under the muslim ottoman empire because they only were concerned with economic interest ruling constantinople as a strategic trade post...so they wanted the muslims to destroy the eastern christians resulting from the schism of 1054 ....so they let the ottoman turks slaughter all of the christians...HUngarians supplied sultan mehmed with a cannonball that destroyed the walls in constantinople in 1456 - go read this fact or watch the history channel....


    What about the GREATER CROATIA USTASA PROJECT WITH ANTE PAVELIC WHO RAN AWAY TO SOUTH AMERICA ARGENTINA WHERE HE HEADED THE SECRET POLICE TO KILL 2 MILLION ARGENTINIANS in the biggest ethnic cleansing education campaign....

    2 million people disappeared over night... hmmm ...and they got their training from ante pavelic ...LOL.....and also the jasenovac concentration camps...LOL AHAHAAH


    WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIM MUFTI BALIJA ? WHO SIDED WITH HITLER and Killed of at least 30,000 serbs in bosnia....you think the bosnian muslims were peaceful??????LOL ahahaahahah....They wanted an ottoman empire regained again into europe....

    You seem to fail to neglect the Greater Croatia USTASA ,Greater Albania SKENDERBEG SS and Greater Bosnia muslim balija?

    everyone wanted a greater something in some period of time but you just use the straw man argument blaming the serbs as the bogeyman....and failed to see the crimes of croats,bosnian muslims and albanians in history....

    SS SKenderbeg never crossed your mind? Ustasa never crossed your mind?
    Balija never crossed your mind????

    Mufti of Jerusalem in WWII was a bosnian muslim and he sided with hitler and escaped from Tito... and he was responsibile for 30,000 dead civilians...
     
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    Wow, Serbians must be stupid, shouldn't they have learnt that even a lot less ultra nationalism has destroyed another country over their very own territory? But of course, the only thing they learn about Austria-Hungary is that it was an "evil empire", so he Serbs, stupidly, will repeat its mistakes.
     
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    LOL the only stupidity is seen when someone jumps into conclusion right after reading initial post and thread started by not so skillful warmongers, who are trying to evoke conflict between South Slavs ;)

    Cheers! :sun:
     
  5. MegaArgus1

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    The Serbian nationalism was provoked by the Croatian so once the bloodshed started it could not stop until Yugoslavia was dead. Slobodan Miloshevic was just a name the same course of events would follow what ever the Serbian leader was named, said or acted.
     
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    The curtain has yet to rise on the final act of the drama in the Balkans. For Americans there is no role to play.
     
  7. LenaSrb

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    Nothing was 'provoked' and dissolution of YU was carefully planed operation.

    When war broke out President of Yugoslavia was Stipe Mesic, a Croat, Prime Minister was Ante Markovic, a Croat, Foreign Minister was Budimir Loncar, a Croat, top ranking Army general was Veljko Kadijevic, half Serb half Croat, married to a Croatian woman, Commander of the AF general Jerkovich, a Croat, last Secretary General of the League of Communists Stipe Shuvar, a Croat (before him was Milan Kuchan a Slovene.)

    When war broke out, especially during initial conflict between Croatia and Serbia:
    Stipe Mesic-President of YU did NOT resigned; he held the office in the period 30 June 1991 – 6 December 1991.
    Ante Markovic-Yugoslav PM, did NOT resigned; he held the office in the period 16 March 1989 – 20 December 1991.

    Military operations against Slovenias' succession were carried from the headquarters of the 5th Yugoslav Military District (Croatia)
    -First JNA units advanced towards Slovenia from Rijeka, Croatia; all others from Croatian territory too.
    -JNA forces were multi-ethnic.One of the pilots of 2 helicopters who were shot down by a Slovenes in that short 'war', was ethnic Slovene.

    All of the above are historical FACTS, not some videos interpreted to suit one or the other agenda, nor personal opinions.

    At the very end, IF Serbs were the ones who stirred the problems in EX YU and all others wished YU to stay intact, they would join forces and expel one Republic, Republic of Serbia out of the YU. Simple!
     
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    It was really sad story but we could not keep together all of the Yugoslav nations by force. We were all losers and again we will be together in EU perhaps. Why so many people died and for what account?
     
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    Then the real mistery remains, what was the real reason for the break-up of Yugoslavia if not nationalism?
     
  10. DaVinci

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    I think that there is nothing more shameful on this world than being a serb. serbs constantly lie, and after committing the biggest genocide on European soil after WWII, you still carry on with your immoral, shameless and sneaky policy of justifying your acts. You should pay attention to the beginning part of this thread, about six pivotal themes that coined serbian chauvinistic and genocidal policy. 'Victimization' of servs was one of the crucial factors.... using it servs played on creating national solidarity amongst you, in order to portray and designate others as perpetrators. How I never came across a serb in this forum(and outside of it) who condemns the genocidal actions carried out by your compatriots? Oh, but I forgot, you should have payed attention to the videoclip in the beginning of this thread (crucial in revealing serbian terroristic nature) in which - the butcher of Balkan - Slobodan Milose(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) is hailed by almost million serb people....

    As for you and other serb blabberings about serbian "christianism", please allow yourself a couple of minutes, in order of recognizing the 'true' serbian love for Christianism ! :

    - Marko Krajlevic and Konstantin Dejanovic take part on the Turkish side in Kosovo battle in 1389 (Decei ‘Istoria Imperiului’ 54- Vladimir Corovic ‘Boj na Kosovu’ 191)

    - Nov 10, 1444,Djurdadj Brankovic,contributed to disastrous defit of Balkan Christian alliance by informin sultan Murad and barring the road by which Scanderbeg had intended to traverse Serbia to join Christian forces at Varna (Cambridge Medieval History 4, 572-73.) Djurdadj Brankovic , does the same 4 years later against the hungarian Hunyadi (M. Kostic ‘Opis Vojske’ 90)

    - Milica accepts Turkish vassalage to get help against Hungarian King Sigismund in 1390 with the blessing of the Orthodox Church.(N. Pavlovic ‘Despot Stefan’ 47-8 ).

    -Olivera marries sultan Bayezit in a formal and honorific wedding (Gibbons “Foundations’ 183).

    - Stefan Lazarevic joins Turkish army in 1393 against prince of Wallachia (N. Malcolm ‘Kosovo a short history’ 82)

    - Sept 25, 1396, Stefan Lazarevic a crucial factor at Turkish victory in Nicopolis, over an Europian alliance (Cambridge Medieval History 4, 561) he could have chosen to sit aside and claim neutrality, like the Bulgarians, but he hated Hungarians and chose fidelity to his Muslim overloard (Tuchman ‘A distant mirror’ 560).

    - Oct 17, 1448 Turkish clash with Christian armies in Kosovo again… Serbs didn’t participate, instead they lurked in the mountain passess.. ready to fall upon and plunder the christian fugitives (Ibid. 573)

    -1455, Christain spahis from Vuk Brankovic’s vilayet and martologues join the Turkish army (Inalcik ‘Od Stefana Dusana’) On Serb vassalage see historian Leopold Ranke ‘History of Servia’ page 84.

    June 15, 1910, sultan Mehmet V was welcomed by Serbian Orthodox Seminary, serenading him with Turkish songs, vice-consul Rakic gathered a largë contingent of serbs, while Albanians boycotted the event (Rakic ‘Konzulska pisma’ 245-50)


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    1571, Catholics in Kosovo suffered harsh treatment (Giannelli ‘Documenti inediti’ 101-2)

    Catholic church was poor and was frequently under pressure not only from the Ottomans but also from the Orthodox Church, which tried to force catholics to pay it ecclesiastical dues. Patriarch Makarije had obtained an imperial firman (decree) that all Christian in his territory must pay their church taxes to him (Lamansky ‘Secret d’etat’ Appendix 064)

    Serbian Monks of Pec were all related to beys and sancakbeyis (Hadrovics ‘L’eglise serbe’ 50)

    Catholic priests complained that they were more oppressed by Orthodox serbs than Muslims (Cordignano ‘Geografica ecclesiastica’ 233)

    1791 Archbishop Mazarek reports he was taunted by proud Orthodox serbs and schismatic people in Prizren, who asked if he arrived accompained by an honorary Janissary Guard, as their Patriarch did (ASCPF SOCG 895, fo 71r)
     
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    Serbian Prince Milos had taken special trouble to expel Albanians from his territory (Pavlovitch ‘Society in Serbia’ 144)

    Serbian state policy to create an ethnically clean territory expelling Albanians from Vranje (Hadzi-Vasiljevic ‘Arbanska liga’ 12-13)

    1910, Isa Boletini and Idriz Seferi tried to halt westward advance of Ottoman troops, but they were outflanked by the army (which had been given the assistance of local Serbs and school teachers to guide them through mountains (N.Malcolm ‘Kosovo a short history’ 241)

    Serbian policy was directed quite actively against the Albanians, to the point of giving direct support to the Young Turk regime (N.Malcolm ‘Kosovo a short history’ 243)

    1910, Orthodox Metropol of Skopje signed a decree for the suppression of this alien script, joining Young Turks campaign against use of Albanian latin alphabet (N.Malcolm ‘Kosovo a short history’ 243)

    PM Pasic told Times in Nov 1913: It’s essential that Serbia should possess about 50KM from Lissus to Durrazzo (N.Malcolm ‘Kosovo a short history’ 255)

    British politician Aubrey Herbert wrote: Like Samson in the temple of Gaza, the Albanians pulled down the columns of Ottoman Empire upon their own head. It was Albanians, not Serbs, Greeks, Bulgarians who defeated the Ottoman Empire (Swire ‘Albania’ 124-5)

    They gave the right of their schools to Serbs but the ottomans continued to deny it to Albanians (Spuler ‘ Minderheitenschulen’ 51,59)

    XV-XVI centuries. There were many cases of peasants migrating from unconquered regions to settle in Ottoman territory. Ottomans taken more care of peasants than its Serbian predecessors (N.Malcolm ‘Kosovo a short history’ 101)

    Albanian guardians of church buildings and monasteries Pec, Decani, Devic (Zirojevic ‘Crkve’ 36)
     
  13. DaVinci

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    It's pathetic to the point of aversion , reading comments from some serbian posters who emphasize the so-called "South-Slavism" while in the same time accuse others for trying to inflame dividing between the above mentioned group... Rushing to make exclusive conclusions, certain poster should have payed more attention to the well-documented links, as presented in this forum, where it was revealed "true" slavic and christian nature of serbs... For the sake of the truth, we will post them again, to once again recall serbian 'glory' history of killing slavs, no matter their religion :

    This clip was recorded by serbs, the event takes place in Croatia, where serbs destroyed churches ! As you may notice, inside this clip, serbs celebrate before they begin shelling and destroying Croatian Catholic church.... was this carried out in the name of 'slavs' ?!?
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtZkMAwDy58&feature=related"]"Christian"Serbs destroying CRO Roman Catholic churches - YouTube[/ame]

    Here you have the list of catholich churches destroyed by serb chauvinists during Bosnia War - was it in the name of 'christianity'?!?

    Derventa Municipality - Croatian catholic churches destroyed burned and levelled to ground zero!

    1. Bijelo Brdo
    2. Bukovica - crkva unistena;
    3. Cer
    4. Derventa
    5. Foca
    6. Bukovac
    7. Johovac
    8. Kulina
    9. Plehan
    10. Lupljanica
    11. Brezici
    12. Donji Susnjari
    13. Poljari
    14. Bozinci
    15. Modran
    16. Socanica
    17. Zeravac ...

    Catholic croatian churched completely destroyed by 'christian' serbs! :
    http://www.zupa-derventa.com/Galerija_slika/SrusenaCrkva/Srusena_cekva_Derventa04.jpg

    The list is very long, and will be posted time after time, to recall serbian 'christianism' !
     
  14. DaVinci

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    The Dalj Massacre
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    Dalj killings and Dalj massacre refer to the events beginning on 1 August 1991 which resulted in the murder of 11 Croatian civilians and 28 Croatian policemen in the village of Dalj, eastern Slavonia at the hand of Serbian paramilitaries led by the notorius war criminal Arkan, during the Croatian War of Independence.!!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalj_massacre

    The Bacin Massacre
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    The Baćin massacre was a war crimecommitted by rebel Croatian Serbs' forces on October 21, 1991 on a location near village of Baćin, near Hrvatska Dubica, in central Croatia, during the Croatian War of Independence.
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    Around 120 Croatian civilians, mostly elderly people and women, were left in the adjactent villages of Hrvatska Dubica, Cerovljani and Baćin. ...

    According to the initial indictment against Milan Babić, on the following day, October 21, 1991, the paramilitaries took the remaining 43 people to a location near the village of Baćin. At least thirteen other non-Serb civilians were brought to the same spot from Baćin and Cerovljani. All 56 civilians were then shot there. Their bodies were exhumed from the mass grave in 1997 and 37 of them have been identified. Most of the victims were between 60 and 90 years of age.

    Around the same time, rebel Serb forces also removed another 30 civilians from Baćin and 24 from Dubica and Cerovljani, and killed them at an unknown location.

    Altogether, 110 people were killed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baćin_massacre

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    Škabrnja massacre (Croatian: Masakr u Škabrnji) was a war crime committed by Serb Army forces during the Croatian War of Independence.On November 18, 1991, Serb paramilitaries, supported by the JNA, captured the village of Škabrnja (also: Škabrnje) and killed 25 Prisoners of war and 61 civilians over the next several days.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Škabrnja_massacre

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    The Vukovar massacre, also known as Vukovar hospital massacre or simply Ovčara, was a war crime that took place between November 20 and November 21, 1991 near the city of Vukovar, a mixed Croat/Serb community in northeastern Croatia. A mostly Croatian group of 263 men and 1 woman (including civilians and POWs), of whom 194 have been identified, were murdered by members of the Serb militias following the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) withdrawal from Ovčara after it brought those patients there from the Vukovar hospital. The murders occurred at the end of the Battle of Vukovar.

    Serbian forces captured the Vukovar hospital with the promise that the JNA(Imagine Yugoslav National Army doing this !!!) would safely evacuate it following an agreement reached together with the Croatian government. Serb militia failed to live up to an agreement with the Red Cross and other international observers to monitor the surrender. When the agreed time approached, an armoured Serb vehicle blocked the observers’ access across a bridge to the hospital while the prisoners were smuggled out in buses in another direction.[17]

    They gathered the 300 men, among them wounded combatants and civilians alike, put them in buses and transported them to Ovčara. Many were beaten, until they were taken to a wooded ravine away from the town. The soldiers and paramilitary fighters then killed the majority of men prisoners, executing them by firearms. The bodies were then mostly thrown in a trench and covered by earth (a bulldozer was used to bury them in a mass grave).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vukovar_massacre

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    WAS THIS CARRIED OUT BY SERBS IN THE NAME OF 'CHRISTIANISM' OR 'SLAVISM' ?!?
     
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    Prijedor massacre - 1992 Prijedor - 14,000 Bosniak civilians(Croats and Muslims) killed by serbs !
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    The Prijedor massacre, also known as the Prijedor ethnic cleansing or the Prijedor genocide, refers to numerous war crimes committed during the Bosnian war by the Serb political and military leadership mostly on Bosniak civilians in the Prijedor region of Bosnia-Herzegovina. After the Srebrenica genocide, it is the second largest massacre committed during the Bosnian war in 1992. According to the Sarajevo-based Research and Documentation Center (IDC), around 5,200 Bosniaks and Croats from Prijedor are missing or were killed during the massacre period, and around 14,000 people in the wider region of Prijedor (Pounje).

    Where have the people disappeared to?!?
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    "Prior to the war and according to the 1991 population census there were some 6,300 Croats, 49,454 Muslims, 47,745 Serbs and 8,971 others, in other words a total of 112,470 inhabitants, in the Prijedor district. According to the population census carried out in 1993 by the "Serbian Republic" and published in "Kozarski vjesnik" on July 2, 1993, the Prijedor district had 68,551 inhabitants of which "53,637 of Orthodox persuasion, 6,124 Muslim and 3,169 Catholic". 4% of the total population were "others". Also included were 5,451 people who had moved to the area from elsewhere.
    Therefore, even with the 5,451 new settlers there are still 46,919 people missing. Where are they? For many of them it is known that they ended up in prison camps such as Keraterm, Trnopolje, Omarska, Manjaca, Krings... or were murdered in their villages, houses. The exact number of victims of the Serbian genocide will have to be determined by someone; by this I primarily mean the international community and the International Tribunal for War Crimes."
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    Witnesses to terrifying events!!!
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    Every witness who comes from these regions has brought with him terrifying stories each more horrifying than the other.
    - During the night of April 30, 1992, about 2 a.m., the Serbs carried out a military coup and brought down the legally elected authorities and established Serbian authority. In this they were aided by the former Yugoslav People's Army. The first armed attack in this area started on May 22, 1992 about 8 p.m. on the village of Hambarine which is exclusively inhabited by Muslims....

    After the attack on Hambarine there followed attacks on Rakovcani, Rizvanovici, Biscani, Carakovo, Jugovci and Zecovi. Kozarac was attacked on May 24 and it is know for certain that more than 200 people were killed in the attack. On May 31, an event occurred, judged to have been instigated, which sparked off Serbian revenge over the Muslims and Croats in Prijedor. People were killed, thrown off roofs, massacred, executed.

    With the first attacks also come the establishment of camps: Keraterm, Omarska and Trnopolje in which all men, between 16 and 60 years of age, were deported. Some of the prisoners were later sent to Manjaca and Batkovici and so it is therefore difficult to say exactly how many were killed. However, according to information and testimonies available, several thousand were killed. Maybe even more than eight thousand, states the Times...

    "- A terrifying date for us was July 20 when the Serbs attacked from the direction of Prijedor onto the area of Mount Matarusko where there was a whole series of villages in which Muslims lived. That day they started cleansing the area of the local inhabitants. Those who were not killed or who had not escaped to the Kurevo woods were taken to the camps by the Serbs." ...In the Muslim village of Tukovi, the Serbs killed some twenty inhabitants and about fifty inhabitants of neighbouring villages were taken to the camps of Keraterm, Trnopolje and Omarska....

    After Tukovi, the Serbs continued their mass killings in other villages. Some of the inhabitants were killed on their doorsteps, and groups of people who were being led to assembly points were executed along the way. The assembly point for the people of Biscani was in the "Bijela Zemlja" area where twenty men were executed. In the village of Mrkalji, some fifty people were killed in front of the house of Smail Mrkalj, while behind the "Rio" cafe, several people were killed. Several men were also killed in Kadici in the house of Edhem Kadic.....

    <<<That day, the Serbs killed about 800 people. The same day Branko Jesic fired at the mosque in Biscani and later burnt it down. Commander Dragan Tintor cut the hand off Suljo Tatarevic before his small son and father and then killed him. The son of Slavka Antonic killed twelve people in front of the mosque in Carakovo and he wrapped the still living Muslim priest in a carpet and set him on fire. They murdered and cleansed the area until July 23, states the witness of Serbian crimes M.C. >>>>

    RAMPAGE AGAINST CIVILIANS
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    That day on July 23, the so-called 6th Krajina Brigade of the Serbian Army set off from the area of the Sanski Most district toward the village of Stara Rijeka inhabited exclusively by Croats. The next morning they literally ran over Stara Rijeka, Brisevo, the entire Kurevo woods, Raljas. That morning, in just the village of Brisevo, 77 civilians were killed. M.I. testifies to this event...."The next day, about 10 a.m., a part of the 6th Krajina Brigade ...arrived at the houses of Pejo Dimac and Ilija Atilija and killed them. Then they caught Milan Buzuk, took him to his own house and tortured him and shot him in front of his mother Vikica. They took out his eyes, cut off his ears and cut his muscles. Then they killed Marko Buzuk.!!!

    ... All night they raped and tortured the local inhabitants; the Serbs from the neighbouring villages were the most vehement. Ivica Mlinar, Luka Mlinar and Jerko Ivandic were killed with picks, shovels and poles. They cut open Zdravko Matanovic's stomach and tied his hands up with his intestines. Kaja Komljen was raped to death. Her breasts were bitten off, teeth marks could be seen. She was found naked on the field where she had been raped. We buried her there. All nine members of the Matanovic family were killed in the stream near the house of Fabo, Anto and Mladen Matanovic. Mato (father Vinko) Buzuk was stabbed with a knife and his wife Marija was hanged. Two elderly people were burned to death when their house was set on fire by Dusan Radulovic known as Cicin or Zuti...

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    Serbs DESTROYING EVIDENCES BY BURNING THE CORPSES !!!

    After the decision of the UN Security Council to establish a Tribunal which would try those accused of committing war crimes in the area of the former Yugoslavia, the Serbian authorities of the districts of Prijedor and Sanski Most and the Ljubija area started to destroy traces of the crimes committed in these areas during 1992 and 1993.
    In this way, in the area called Dubocaj, on November 5 1992, the Serbs burnt the corpses of their victims. According to eyewitnesses, the odour spread to Raljasi 3.5 km away.

    AND ALL OF THIS IN THE NAME OF SERBIAN 'CHRISTIANISM' ?
     
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    you albanians love to bring something not consistent with the topic of our dialogue so you bring another subject .....


    where we talking about albanian islamics?
     
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    the real reason for the breakup of yugoslavia had to do with economics...

    the dinar devalued in the late 1980s destroying the economics just like whats happening to greece...

    food was so expensive that people had to barter with their relatives in the farm villages...

    and people were using foriegn currencies like the german deutsch marks...

    things got worse in the early 1990s that the republics were economically bankrupt which sparked protest with nationalist groups...
     
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    I've come to like the Serbs. I wish them well.
     
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    It's just an unsophisticated way to incite the hatred among South Slavs. Now, as a response to Albanian post I'd need to write about things done/crimes committed against Serbs by Croats and Bosnian Muslims and to spend some time in googling his sources, investigate accusations and so on. As soon as one responds to all that rubbish, instantly comes the other post and new wave of accusations and attacks. Pure waste of time...


    We're talking about Albanian Islamics on other threads.
     
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    Its just a waste of time because all of this is known and nobody really cares and we are just wasting time with this albanian ..

    Besides I find several themes on Albanian propaganda that they always spread.

    Albanians try to justify their nationalism from outdated historical documents or sources by claiming their ancient presence in the balkans.


    national geographic /genographics and eupedia have discovered the majority of y chromosome in serbia ,bosnia, croatia have haplogroup I which is the oldest haplogroup in the european continent that arrived 45000 years ago just before the last glacial ice age. It was the haplogroup that represented Cro-magnon Man...Did you know the average hieght of Cro magnon man was 6'6 while 69 would be the tallest? Does that sound familiar with some serbs,croat and bosnians?


    I haplogroup also is a proto semitic haplogroup which can explain why the south slavic speakers look different than russian poles meaning their mediterrean features...Slavs only possess R haplogroup....

    It also dispels the viking myth as only blonde blued germanic types...Vikings had asians, proto semitics, and germanics/slavs in their tribes and had this confederation...

    People in southern sweden have this haplogroup I ..There is an area of southern sweden compromised of 3 provinces called SKaneland or Scania where people have their own flags, culture and language group...

    These people are the orginators of the Goths like the ostrogoths,visigoths, varangians. By the way , the word "Goth" corresponds to people with dark hair color like the people in the balkans.

    Why are serbs,croats and bosnian slavic speakers? thats easy to explain ...

    25000 years ago indo european R haplogroup invaded europe and subdued the inhabitants and the conquered I haplogroup group adopted the slavic languages...

    Languages doesnt necessarily identify ethnicity because of war,migration and cultural influences...

    BY the way, the skaneland people have their own language not related with swedish and i am always curious to know what is it ?

    And did you also know 30% of german is not even indo european and may have had infliuences from some langauge group in europe...


    So once invading R haplogroup people come and took over the I haplogroup people, the first thing they do is kill off all of the warrior caste or men and leave off a few women and children...And the women are the ones that will add vocabulary to the R haplgroup people....

    Just a thought...

    other people that have I haplogroup are Lithuanians and some northern caucases people...


    Remember I haplogroup had many variations in Europe and covered from england all the way to the caucauses...
     
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    So sad ! As expected , instead of showing compassion - victims of the serb genocide and fascism - you try to avoid the thread....

    serbs posses no moral values, no dignity nor education....
     
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    ....

    “Even the wives of six Turkish sultans were Serbian, and our cuisines are very similar.” She stressed that there is more than enough to build on relations; however, she lamented that economic ties between Turkey and Serbia are not at the desired level and vowed to push for growing relations between the business communities of both countries.

    “We know how Turkish investors have been very successful in Bulgaria and Romania. We want to attract businesspeople from Turkey to invest in Serbia as well. We have passed laws in Parliament to facilitate foreign investment and establish businesses in our country,” she explained. She also invited her Turkish counterpart to visit Belgrade along with deputies from the Turkey-Serbia Inter-parliamentary Friendship Group, accompanied by a delegation of Turkish businesspeople.
    http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?newsId=230394
     
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    your last sentence just demonstrate your hate because you can't assign any absolute value system to any one ethnic group.



    You have so much time posting all this information building up an anti serbian campaign that benefits another group...Go figure...

    I can post many articles about croatian , bosnian or even albanian atrocities..I can even post articles about the croatians blowing up the bosnian muslim bridge in mostar...


    Your propaganda just creates justification for an albanian cause...and benefits....

    It doesnt create any kind of peace ....Anyways China and Russia doesn't recognize Kosovo...

    China is a big trading partner with the US ...NATO accidently blew up a Chinese embassy during the bombing campaign and ever since then China has never recognized Kosovo...

    So go figure..your little propaganda will not work ... I feel sorry for you..
     
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    There is no justification , just revealing true servian face !!! Ever heard of " Truth shall set you free " ?!? WHat about Srebrenica ?
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    You still have no comment regarding this ?

    "“Even the wives of six Turkish sultans were Serbian, and our cuisines are very similar.” She stressed that there is more than enough to build on relations; however, she lamented that economic ties between Turkey and Serbia are not at the desired level and vowed to push for growing relations between the business communities of both countries.

    “We know how Turkish investors have been very successful in Bulgaria and Romania. We want to attract businesspeople from Turkey to invest in Serbia as well. We have passed laws in Parliament to facilitate foreign investment and establish businesses in our country,” she explained. She also invited her Turkish counterpart to visit Belgrade along with deputies from the Turkey-Serbia Inter-parliamentary Friendship Group, accompanied by a delegation of Turkish businesspeople.
    http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetai...?newsId=230394
     

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