Seriously, what is wrong with Christians?

Trust me, there are more who think like Pat R than your way. At least in the little bit of america I know. And even watch.

 

I've read many threads and posts of this blackrook. He may live like the 1st but from his posts, certainly not like the 2nd. So one has to take most of his posts with a grain of salt.

 

My friend, with all due respesct, I can't help but feel that either your understanding of Christianity has been contorted, or you've been misled by other "Christians" that you know.
Any true Christian should not want any person to spend an eternity in hell, because we are all Gods children and have all been created in his image. I know exactly how you feel because not so long ago I felt exactly the same way, let me explain...My wife came to the Lord quite a few years before I did, I thought religion was a joke, sometimes I would even mock her for her faith. I remember one time watching T.V. and during the news they anounced that at 2:00 tommorow some guy was going to get the needle in texas for the killing of 4 people. Just then I looked over and saw my wife literally down on her knees, I asked her if everything was ok and she looked up at me and there where tears running down her face. I thought she fell and twisted her ankle or something. then she began to pray to the Lord ..."Lord please bring someone to this evil and wicked man, bring someone to him that can share the gospel with him before its too late, Lord please open the door to his salvation for he does not yet know you..."etc. I looked at her and said "are you crazy? he killed 4 people" She siad "It doesn't matter, he is still a child of God created in his likeness and he needs the savior."
I didn't get it then, but I have since come to the Lord myself, and now I do totally get it. I know that you probably think I'm nuts, but thats okay, because as much as I can not physically prove to you that there is a God, I can assure you that if you open your heart to him, confess and repent your sins, let his grace, wisdom, and glory enter your soul, it will change you in a way that I can not even begin to explain.
I find that many people on this forum tend to mock Christians and Christianity, and in all honesty to some degree I can't blame them, because unfortunately there are a lot of fake christians, and unfortunately hypocrisy runs rampant throughout christianity today, but on the flip side of that, most people here that mock Christianity, have never opened their hearts to it, have never really tried to experience it, and that in itself is hypocrisy.
Anyways, I'll get down off my soap box now, hopefully I've explained things clearly...

As for me and my house we will serve the Lord...

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God bless.

 

Compromises and doctrinal disunity.The Bible teaches us that there should be no divisions in the Church but people disregard this.The central teachings are the same.

If they owned slaves against their will and treated them badly then they weren't Biblical justified, you can spin this like a top but it won't change anything.

 

Based on what you know about the Bible, what would you say that "something" is ?

 

I never said that "something" existed.

 

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 14:26-27&version=KJV

"
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
"

 

That's the "hate your family but love your neighbors" religious doctrine.

 

Hilarious presumptive post, imo.
Many of the people who do not believe on here came from a very devout past. It isn't a lack of exposure or dedication to the faith that makes them not believe. It's sometimes exactly the opposite.
Take me for example. I was an ordained minister, and after being such for some time it became quite clear how arbitrary the belief system is, and how uncritical people tend to be of their faith. Many ministers go through the same thing, and you can look up those stats easily. The percentages are unbelievably high.
Lack of belief does not equate to lack of trying.
Try again.

 

That is not what you have previously attested to. Why are you changing your story now?

 

I'm not.
What are you talking about?

 

Yes you are. You previously attested to the claim that you left the ministry because you were tired of telling lies to your congregation. You know that testimony of yours as well as I do and it is a record of this forum.

 

I am WELL AWARE that Christians pretty much pick and choose whatever interpretations they want to take from the Bible. That's why there are more than 39,000 denominations. Would it make you feel better if I specify that my post is directed at the THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE MILLION PROTESTANTS IN THE WORLD?

 

All true. How is that in conflict with my recent post here?

 

Are ALL of your beliefs as a Christian as well thought out as this one?

 

Telling lies is not the same as repeating something that you claim to be arbitrary. Your claim toward arbitrariness is also arbitrary without the showing to Proof that the thing claimed to be arbitrary is in fact arbitrary.

 

That's hilarious.
You have made the case that "facts" are arbitrary. They are simply what you believe.
There is no conflict with what I said before.
There is simply a petty man with a personal axe to grind.
That would be you by the way.

 

Now now, going all rhetorical question on us.

 

Proof yet again that Christians don't even know what's in their own religion! Here are the FACTS:

This is what Christians are taught as the morality and wisdom of their "savior". No WONDER they are SCARED!

 

CONserveustives have a GREAT deal of difficulty resolving one thought with another. Psychology Today magazine explains it thus:

 

No! You are hilarious, as I have not made the case. The socially accepted dictionary made the case. Learn to recognize reality... in this case the reality of what the dictionary says and the fact that I did not write the dictionary.

That would depend on whose perspective the subject is being viewed by.

And what "personal axe" do I have to grind? That you are now telling another story regarding your reason for leaving the ministry. Your current claim is in fact the third claim that you have made regarding the reason for you leaving the ministry. So if there is any arbitrariness that is found in this whole discussion it is the arbitrariness of your instant need to tell a different story.

 

I never talked about why I left the ministry in this thread.
By the way, when I post, you can pretty much assume you are getting my perspective.
You're daft.

 

A lot of xtians dont know what is in the bible. Some think that they do; we never find any who dont think they have the right reading.

As for slavery, well, what one does not like can be read so that it means something acceptable. What you want to find can always be teased out somehow.

 

Actually, not like you said at all. It says no division of the church and people disobey it. It is very clear about that and people very clearly disobey it. It is that simple.You are flailing.

Desperate ..Try something relevant.