Should we ban the indoctrination and brainwashing of children by religions? Is it chi

Governments already have laws controlling religions.

Think Koresh.

Religions answer to government, not the other way around.

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DL

 

So victims of fraud are just to suck it up.

Nice social morals pal.

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Where is it written that the constitution was written to protect liars, frauds and charlatans?

That is what you want to use it to do.

"First, who are you to tell people what to teach their children?"

I am just a guy who thinks it evil to lie to children.

Who are you to protect and thus encourage your societies religions to lie to children?

Do you like the idea of children being lied to? You must.

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We have freedom of religion in the U.S. The State has no constitutional right to ban any religion's right to indoctrinate their children as long as that indoctrination is within the constitution and law.

 

Well, you must be an Atheist. Because you sign up to forcing others to believe as you do. This is why we have n. Korea. This is why we had the former USSR. Atheists, given the power of control, turn into destructive,totalitarian despots.

 

Where in the constitution does it say that it is ok to lie to children and do damage to som of them via those lies?

We do you want to maintain and support religious system that are based on lies?

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If I could force children to not believe the lies that you are endorsing, I would make it so.

Why would you not?

Do you not believe in doing unto others? Do you like to be lied to?

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Take note: I'm the parent of my children. You are a nutcase. You are to stay away from my kids.

 

You are quite the parent then to just sit back and let priests and imams just lie to them outright.

You must have been abused the same way by your parents.

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Well yes I was. Raised in an Atheist household and a former Atheist myself. I remember the arrogence, contempt for Christians and the overwhelming drive to force others to believe as I do. In short you think you are enlightened, but in reality you are woefully ignorant. I certainly will not tolerate that ignorance passed on to my children.

 

Well, I was raised in a very strict religious environment an remember not understanding why everyone did not share the same beliefs as I did, that other religious groups such as Hindoo's were ignorant.

The difference is, I had an excuse for my ignorance as I was indoctrinated as a child and had sophisticated mind control techniques used on me.

It took many years to get rid of the programming but, through years of investigation and study, I finally did it.

You seemed to have been sucked by the cultists as an adult and now you want to pass the programming on to your children rather than letting them make up their own minds.

Telling a child that "if they do not have faith" or "if they question the tenets of the Bible" or "If they do not believe in Jesus" that the worst thing the mind can imagine will happen to them ...... is a sophisticated mind control technique whether you realize it or not (speaking of ignorance)

Telling a child that they will be tortured not for just a day or two, but for eternity in the afterlife if they do not "believe", hits deep in the subconscious. The adherent who internalizes that fear is then susceptible to further control.

Their mind is partially shut off. Every time an idea that conflicts with religious dogma is encountered the the fear kicks in and the adherent starts to develop defense mechanisms against such thoughts ... denial, anger, aversion and/ or clinging to most nonsensical of irrational and illogical arguments.

 

Thinking that is America's job to take in freeloaders and other people that will take more than they will give---is a backward view.

People who are starving in poor nations around the world are starving because the people and their leaders are incapable of sustaining themselves based on the resources at hand.

Why dig a well, give bags of food and healthcare to 100 people out in the bush, if they begin to overbreed and overpopulate the land in a few years?

Now 20 years later there are 1,000 starving people who have cut down all the trees and killed off most of the game. Making things better for people like that ends up making things worse.

Bernie Sanders is a Communist, he wants America to look like Haiti, like Mexico, like Syria.

 

Where is your proof. At least a link.

Again proof.

And yet again, proof.

 

Id like to see the indoctrination of socialism also banned. No person should have the right to enforce their beliefs on others, which is exactly what socialist do - taking property by govt force with a rich history of mass murder to reach some utopia. But socialists who have no better moral basis for their beliefs than the religious folk think only they have the right to use aggression/ violence to enforce their values/morals.

 

Learning by rote and memorization was the way of learning in the Arab world for thousands of years, but about a decade ago the Saudis decided to do away with rote learning and push critical thinking.. I don't know what other Muslim countries have done.. It may depend on whether or not a country is impoverished as to whether or not they still have education by rote.

I memorized many, many Bible verses in Sunday School every week in Arabia .. There was a point system and we received prizes.. like a Bible with your name embossed on the cover.. or the Ten Commandments on a wooden plaque.

 

This last is too stupid to address.

I gave U S stats in that graph, yet you talk about everyone else. Hmmm. Ashamed are you?

Are you saying that the graph is showing the U.S. in a morally good situation?

You certainly do not seem to have much of a sense of social conscience.

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Is democracy not based on majority rule and is that majority not making their beliefs the law of the land and forcing their beliefs on others?

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DL

 

Your graph is nonsense. The bottom 10% of "poor" people in America live like kings compared to the much poorer clods who live in Central Africa. The only starving people here in the US are insane people or druggies who are too out of their minds to care for themselves or their fatherless children.

Yes, the poorest poor in the US get tons of freebies, SNAP cards, free cell phones, Section 8 Housing benefits, Medicaid, Welfare $$$,...

This adds up to an average of $40,000 worth of welfare benefits per person.

Sorry if I fail to shed tears.

My advice to the lazy poor, no work, no eat. And if you are not going to be an asset to America, stay out.

 

Thanks for showing that you have no moral sense.

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DL

 

Actually the Constitution has this little thing called "Free Speech". Lying is protected whether you like it or not. Second you have no idea if its a lie or not since you can neither prove, nor disprove that God... or hell... exists or not.

No doubt you're the type of guy that doesn't celebrate Christmas with the kids to bring a little joy and magic to their lives. I'm sure that you're the type of guy that will tell the truth no matter what harm it causes. There's a reason that they say that "Truth hurts". Tell me, what are you going to tell your child if they happen to catch you having sex? "Oh don't worry kid, I was just (*)(*)(*)(*)ing your mothers brains out!" ..... yeah...doubt that.

Prove that telling a child about God is a lie. You can't can you?

There are times when it is appropriate to lie to a child. Like the example that I gave you regarding "(*)(*)(*)(*)ing your mothers brains out". You tell me. I'm sure that you'll also tell your children that it is perfectly OK to think that everyone that has a different opinion is "evil"....which is a lie in itself. Maybe, just maybe, you should let your child make their own decisions regarding what to believe and what not to believe.

 

Good thing we don't have a Democracy then huh? We live in a Republic.

 

I agree with this last and that is why I do not think that as a society we should allow liars and charlatans lie outright to our children.

I like the way you reversed all the onus to me to prove that liars who point to invisible Gods are actually pointing to invisible Gods.

Ever hear of logical fallacy?

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DL