Shouldn't Auto Racing Be Banned ?

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  1. Nullity

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    If it is a willful, conscious decision by an adult, then yes, absolutely.

    I do not agree with or condone drug use, but I respect the rights of others to do as they wish.
     
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    Ridiculous. Why should the government do such a thing? What right does it have to dictate what I do (in the same context of not harming anyone else)?
     
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    No, you are not getting it. I understand what you are saying completely. I understand that his death affects others. The point is, that it is ultimately irrelevant. It was Dan's life and no other person on this Earth had any right to tell him what he could and could not do with it. That includes his kids.

    Now, that being said, it is of my personal opinion that he should have considered the repercussions to his kids and probably considered a less dangerous profession (as I would have done in his position).

    See above explanation, it applies to everyone, not just Dan Wheldon. Besides that, I have no kids for which to consider, nor do I do anything particularly dangerous.

    I, just as Dan Wheldon, ultimately must not answer to anyone regarding what I do with my own life (religious view aside - I'm an atheist).
     
  4. Nullity

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    Not at all. You've denied it, but it surely hasn't been refuted.

    [/QUOTE]And saying racers are safer than you are while driving down the highway is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in a computer forum in 5 years.[/QUOTE]
    Clearly you are not familiar with the myriad of precautions taken in the racing industry to protect the drivers.
     
  5. Nullity

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    Yes, of course! There must be subliminal messages interlaced within television and radio broadcasts of racing event which mentally condition people to go out and drive recklessly - and it's all supported and funded by the politicians! Why didn't I see this before?!

    And yes, I realize this is a non sequitur, but I presented it anyway as it's the only rationale I can conceive which supports your claim.

    Pure opinion and absolutely irrelevant.

    (Personally, I find baseball and football - both American and soccer - to be some of the most boring sports there are. I also can't stand Nascar and the like, but others such as GT, F1, Rally, etc I sometimes find quite enjoyable.)
     
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    You could accidentally get a paper cut on your wrist from one of the cards and bleed out, so no, we'd better ban that one too - in addition to playing cards in general.
     
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    Auto racing is not about the cars or driving anymore, it's about who has the biggest rocks. But I have issues with baseball, too. Collisions at the plate are not "just baseball".
     
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    You obviously have no idea what goes into making today's race cars protectionist. As for comparing racing to other sports, I did no such thing. I compared the chance of you being killed in a race car to being killed during your local commute. Thousand die every year driving on our roads. A death in racing is a rare occurrence, which makes Weldon's just that much more tragic. As for not being impartial, you are correct, I'm not. that's because I know how race cars are built. The costs of materials is one of the biggest costs in racing today.
    Open wheel racing is one of the most, if not the most dangerous, form of racing. simply because it is that, open wheeled. When two pieces of rubber turning at over 200 MPH touch, something is going to give.
    But I reiterate the fact you seem to have missed. EVERY driver and their family knows and accepts the fact that every time they go out on the track, they may not come back.
     
  9. protectionist

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    Thankfully, the majority of the American people (including me), and the majority of legislators disagree with you.
     
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    FALSE ! Compared to street driving, and compared to other sports, A death in racing is a relatively common occurrence. You are also wrong about their families knowing and accepting that they may not come back. when Wheldon's baby sons are old enough to talk and understand all this, thay could truthfully say "We didn't know it, and we didn't accept it".
     
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    I agree. Intentionally crashing into a catcher should be banned. Runners should be aiming at the plate, not any person.
     
  12. stretch351c

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    Really? Parents make decisions for their children every day. I have to give you credit for raising a nice strawman argument, but it is still just a strawman. According to your own link, there have been less than 3 dozen deaths in all forms of auto racing since 2000. While running literally millions of miles at high speeds within inches of their fellow racers. More people than that die on an average week on our roads. Tell ya what, when you have been inside a race care that has flipped end over end 4 times as I have and walked away without a scratch, you can talk to me about ending racing. Until then, you are simply a clueless idiot.
     
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    That's nice of you to think of them. Now to those who make auto racing their occupation. Why should they be prohibited from participation in the sport they love?
     
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    You are more likely to die on the freeway than on the race track.
     
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    Perhaps we should ban football, too. After all, if a player crashes into another player, someone might get hurt. Gee whiz!
     
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    Dude, you are so NOT allowed to make sense here!!
     
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    Protectionist, you might be outraged at the moment to know that I am, right at this moment, watching...AUTO RACING!! My goodness, I know, its a terrible thing, isn't it?
    Cars going 300ks an hour, zooming around corners at super speed, some have probably even crashed!!

    But NO ONE has been killed. Deaths in auto racing are extremely rare.

    Compare the deaths in auto racing per year to the road toll per year. You should be wanting to ban cars, not auto racing.
     
  18. protectionist

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    Wrong. the link mention 182 death is only 5 particular races. There are many more races not in that count. You are a cluless idiot for not understanding what I'm talking about, for putting in a meaningless point ("..been inside a race car.."), and posting a wrong assessment of the link. BYW, thnks for the adjectives. They came in handy.
     
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    And you, and he, are allowed to make NONsense. And you do.
     
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    I don't recall hundreds of football players dying. Do you ?
     
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    Your question has been answered about 50 times in this thread. Read it.
     
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    FALSE ! And even more ridiculous than it is false.
     
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    It has the right to protect you from a person who, by stupidity, might harm you - YOU.
     
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    In your last 2 sentences, you said the word "I" 5 times. LOL. This is too funny.
     
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    Yeah, good idea. Compare the deaths in auto racing per year to the road toll per year. And you will easily see that deaths in auto racing are far more prevalent and likely than regular road driving. There are far more deaths in auto racing relative to the number of racers driving, than there are deaths on regular roads relative to the number of drivers there. The auto racing percentage is much higher.
     

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