Shouldn't Auto Racing Be Banned ?

Discussion in 'Law & Justice' started by protectionist, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. jthorp24

    jthorp24 New Member

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    The catcher should get the hell out of the way then. I hate when people say it's the runners fault. If you don't want to get hit, get the hell out of the way then.
     
  2. Leo2

    Leo2 Well-Known Member

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    Protectionist, the most lethal form of motor racing should be the Formula One Grand Prix Championship, since the highest average speeds are maintained over twisting and demanding circuits, and the cars are open monopostos.

    Since the F1 Championship was inaugurated in 1952 (nearly 60 years ago); 48 Grand Prix pilotes have died competing. That is fewer than one each year.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_fatal_accidents

    I do not think motor racing is intrinsically a lethal sport, but of course collisions will occur. The safety standards of modern European cars are already very high, and they are considerably enhanced by professional competition preparation.

    I might tend to agree with you that the form of oval racing which is popular in the US, is inherently more lethal, because it involves constant high speed in quite poorly designed machines, which seem to break up quite badly on impact. Deaths in European touring and prototype sports car races, are very rare indeed. The remedy lies in altering the format, and in better designed machines, not the banning all forms of motor sport.
     
  3. stretch351c

    stretch351c New Member

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    And yet again you distort my response protectionist. I specifically said since 2000. The clueless one here is you. You know absolutely nothing about race cars or how they are built.
     
  4. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    You have been proven wrong on this. More people die on the roads each year than die in auto racing. Its a fact you refuse to admit.
     
  5. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    That does not mean you are more likely to die while auto racing than you are while driving on the road.
     
  6. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I don't recall hundreds of auto racers dying, either. Funny, that.
     
  7. Nullity

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    Wtf is your point? You have just been wrong before, but now you're not even making any sense.
     
  8. SFJEFF

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    The whole argument of the OP has been- and continues to be this:
    a) Too many people die auto racing
    b) Children of parents who die suffer
    c) Therefore governments should ban auto racing(and air racing and any other racing that apparently involves motors)

    However, the OP consistantly refuses to define what is 'too many' or why it is just the children of auto racers that we should be concerned about or why it is the role of government to ban an activiely that potentially could cause emotional suffering to the children of participants. He frankly has not made any case why government should ban auto racing as opposed to any other activity in which someone might be harmed.

    He just has a bee in his bonnet about auto (and air racing).

    He hasn't made any case, but just keeps spouting his opinion on how things should be, and even though almost everyone who responds to him considers his opinion to be wrong, he regularly calls us all idiots for disagreeing with him.

    There isn't any point to this thread any longer- everyone of us has expressed our opposition to his authoritarian recommendations, and he thinks we are all idiots.
     
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    As a matter of fact, there is evidence that NFL football players can suffer traumatic brain injuries from playing the game, and that this may contribute to their early demise.
     
  10. ptif219

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    Yesterday was a great race and the chase is getting very interesting
     
  11. protectionist

    protectionist Banned

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    I have clearly made my case. It's in the thread. And you're right. There isn't any more point to the tread. I've stated my case, and all you auto racing fans have stated yours.
     
  12. protectionist

    protectionist Banned

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    Not necessarily auto "racers" but just flyers in air shows. An abomination with or without the racing.
     
  13. SpotsCat

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    Let's not forget the drivers killed in motorcycle racing either. Or the drivers killed in powerboat racing.

    And of course, there's the occasional jockey trampled in horse racing... and the boxer who dies from a brutal blow to the head... and the baseball player who is beaned in the noggin by an unintentional pitch, or hit by a struck ball...

    Why don't we just outlaw any type of activity that carries with it the risk - however small - of the death of the participant?

    After all, it's for the children...
     
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    Who said I am a fan of auto racing? I find it rather tedious- though I have seen a couple races I really liked but I haven't watched on in oh maybe 10 years?

    I am a big fan of the Declaration of Independence:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --

    And that government should not infringe upon these rights, except to protect them from other people's actions.
     
  15. ptif219

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    You have shown you know nothing about racing or the huge safety advances made since Dale Earnhardt died
     
  16. UtopianChaz

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    i'm not even a fan of racinf and i don't think it should be banned. The people who race know flat out the risks that can happen if they get into a crash going hundred of miles an hour. It is a high risk-High reward sporting event. Many football player can die or become paralyzed from an accident but that doesn't mean it should be banned. Once again the competitors KNOW the risk.
     
  17. axialturban

    axialturban Well-Known Member

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    Take the drivers out of the cars since they are going around in circles and have them drive them by remote, then remove the fences and pay the spectators instead.
    :mrgreen:
     

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