Simple question: Why has Ray Epps not been arrested for inciting the Jan 6 'insurrection?'

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  1. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

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    And your point would be . . .? slight ironic you cite YAHOO as the source of this yahooishness.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Of the hundreds of Trump goons identified, apprehended, indicted, and prosecuted for their assault on the Capitol on January 6, 2021, how many mentioned Ray Epps as the provocateur who encouraged them to attack outnumbered police defending democracy?
     
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    . Don't need them, plenty of video evidence of his incitements are available.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Then I'm glad that you agree that January 6 was a mostly peaceful protest.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    If someone tells a crowd to murder someone, but nobody in the crowd carries out the murder, has a crime been committed?
     
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    Ray Epps was part of a Fed Operation to incite a riot on J6
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    False.

    There is the testimony of a Trump goon that “He came up to me and he said, ‘Dude’ — his entire words were, ‘Relax, the cops are doing their job,’” and there is not a single Trump goon of the roughly one thousand identified, apprehended, indicted, and prosecuting saying otherwise.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If that is what you need to believe, cling to it - despite copious footage, testimony, and injuries to the outnumbered police attacked by Trump's goons.
     
  9. Bullseye

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    So, you're using his own words to prove he wasn't involved? :eek:
     
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    Have you see the footage of the Capitol Police getting the peaceful crowd riled with flashbangs and pepper spray.... and don't forget the physical beating with their fists ( a little later in this clip)

    You think the Capitol videos would DARE show this?

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1421942908954062853

    https://rumble.com/vj4p3j-capitol-police-throw-flashbangs-on-peaceful-crowd-january-6-2021.html

    https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/...d-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/

    https://www.worldtribune.com/report...d-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rats-media-dc-police-refuse-release-evidence/

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    If the fake allegation that Ray "The Man Who Controls Weak Minds" Epps incited Trump goons to attack outnumbered police defending the Capitol on January 6, 2021is still afoot (despite none of the approximately 1,000 Trump goons who were identified, apprehended, indicted, and prosecuted ever mentioning him) what are the current investigations of him by the Republican-run Congress?
     
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    Epps, ,your cousin, or something?
     
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    Apparently he's some kind of family member! It would seem that the only Jan 6ers who libs would defend are their family members! :roflol:
     
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    Just like the vast majority of the crowd?
     
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    He's a fed. He may not be officially on the federal payroll (tho it wouldn't surprise me if he is), but he's clearly an agent of the government. Otherwise he would've been arrested, charged and prosecuted for doing the same things that many others were arrested and prosecuted for. 'Agent provacateur' isn't just a made up term. And every leftist who's been politically involved for more than 25 years is well aware of how conservative administrations would use government agents to instigate violence at leftist protests to turn public perception against them. Though, apparently, they arent sophisticated enough to understand (or honest enough to admit) how that could possibly happen in the reverse...
     
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    I am unaware of what percentage of the mob were not identified, apprehended, indicted, and prosecuted based upon the evidence.

    All the Trump goons who were convicted and sentenced probably did not exceed those who were just hapless dupes.
     
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    Would a charged against Epps change it for you?
     
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    Yeah exactly, so a mostly peaceful protest. I'm glad that we can agree.
     
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    I'm glad that the law identified, apprehended, indicted and prosecuted approximately 1,000 Trump goons and expect our criminal justice system to persist in the pursuit of others.

    I'm also relieved that you condemn the scapegoating of Ray Epps who tried to speak reason to the Trump goons.
     
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    So it wasn't a mostly peaceful protest?
     
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    I have no statistical analysis.

    The goons who were identified, apprehended, indicted, and prosecuted have been documented.
     
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    Ray Epps was working with the Feds to incite a riot.
     
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    Another FBI agent caught lying.

    FBI agent lied under oath about knowledge of Hunter Biden laptop, talks with Facebook, document reveals

    A San Francisco-based FBI special agent lied under oath about discussions he had with big tech companies that suppressed The Post’s reporting on the contents of first son Hunter Biden’s laptop hard drive before the 2020 election, according to an internal Facebook document.

    Elvis Chan made false statements about his communications with Facebook over the bombshell October 2020 reports that revealed Hunter involved his dad Joe in business deals with foreign nationals, internal communications obtained by the House Judiciary Committee show.

    A Facebook employee said in an Oct. 15, 2020, message that he had spoken with Chan, who said he was “up to speed” on the FBI’s probe of Hunter’s laptop and “that there was no current evidence to suggest any foreign connection or direction of the leak.”

    Chan had shared the information during a “follow up” phone call with the employee following a conversation the day before between the FBI’s Foreign Influence Task Force and Facebook officials, during which the bureau declined to comment on whether the laptop was “real.”

    But in sworn testimony on Nov. 29, 2022, Chan said he had “no internal knowledge of that investigation” and twice claimed he never communicated with Facebook beyond the one conference call with the FBI task force. That deposition was part of a lawsuit filed against the Biden administration by the attorneys general of Missouri and Louisiana, which charged the White House colluded with tech giants to unlawfully suppress free speech.

    The task force’s section chief, Laura Dehmlow, told the House Judiciary Committee in July that on an earlier phone call with Twitter officials on Oct. 14, 2022, an FBI agent confirmed the laptop was authentic “before another participant jumped in and said no further comment.”

    *

    The bureau had verified the authenticity of the materials on Hunter’s abandoned laptop nearly a year earlier, in November 2019, an IRS investigator tasked with the case testified in May to the House Ways and Means Committee.

    Facebook reduced the reach of The Post’s laptop reporting at the time, citing its misinformation policy. Twitter blocked attempts to share the story under the site’s rules governing “hacked materials.”

    Five days later, 51 former intelligence officials circulated a letter to discredit the reporting — at the prompting of then-Biden campaign adviser Antony Blinken — saying the leaked emails had “all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

    FBI agent lied about knowledge of Hunter Biden laptop, talks with Facebook (nypost.com)

     
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    So BLM 2020 wasn't mostly peaceful protests?
     
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    Again, I have seen no statistical analysis, so you attempt at diversion is futile.

    Approximately 1,000 of Trump's January 6 goons were identified, apprehended, indicted, and prosecuted.

    As best I can determine, not one tried blaming Ray Epps for provoking him, and one testified that he was advising restraint.
     

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