Simple question: Why has Ray Epps not been arrested for inciting the Jan 6 'insurrection?'

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry that the concept of evidence flies over the head of some.
     
  2. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    evidence = DOJ investigation....... not you, me or Comer...

    Please show us ANY DOJ investigation into "reasonable suspicion" Comer has uncovered of the shell game that the Biden family has partook into.... more to come.

    Comer Reveals New Evidence in Biden Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/
    second memo 36 page
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf

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  3. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You are going to have to show reasonable suspicion if you want reasonable suspicion to be investigated. You need more than "seems sus" and "seems sus" is, to put it generously, all you have. No LLC has ever, every been criminally investigated just because, "Hey, they got money and we want to know what that money was for." Ever.
     
  4. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You seem hellbent on
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    "Oh, yeah!
    Well, whaddabout...?"

    I understand your desperate need for a diversion.

    You can, as with Hillary Clinton, screech that the President and/or members of his family should be locked up, but until Jim Jordan and his boys can contrive an excuse to bring charges, you'll just have to wait. I'm sure they'll blow lots of gas to keep you entertained.

    In the meantime, Trump's multiple prosecutions should provide ample proof that no one is above the law.
     
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  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    What, precisely, gives you the idea that it would be appropriate to charge Ray Eps with seditious conspiracy? Promoting trespassing doesn't get your there, and that's about all he did (as far as I can tell, if you have evidence of otherwise, enlighten me).
     
  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    What credibility do you have?
    Did he? I'm not so sure and again what credibility do you have?
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Reality does not depend upon my personal credibility.

    It is a matter of indisputable reality that all 50 states verified their popular votes, assigned their electoral votes accordingly, and the result was certified by the Congress of the United States on January 6, 2021. Not a single challenge to the election exists in any legal venue anywhere.

    Regardless of your personal fantasies, you are impotent in refuting the truth.
     
  8. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    “He came up to me and he said, ‘Dude’ — his entire words were,

    ‘Relax, the cops are doing their job.’”
    [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/jan-6-ray-epps-evidence.html]
    Ironically, Ray Epps, an erstwhile dupe of trumpery, has had his life and those of his loved ones threatened by the cultists of trumpery.

    Fox News has been hit with yet another defamation lawsuit, this time by Ray Epps, a former U.S. Marine turned Arizona wedding venue operator who was in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The suit centers on the statements of Fox's former primetime star, Tucker Carlson, who repeatedly placed Epps, a supporter of Trump... at the center of the violent siege on the U.S. Capitol.

    Carlson's guests and his own remarks conveyed with seeming certitude that Epps helped instigate the violence unleashed that day and also that he must have been collaborating with a federal agency to do so. Yet Carlson never presented viewers with any concrete evidence of the claims.

    [https://www.npr.org/2023/07/12/1187318029/fox-news-sued-ray-epps-defamation-jan-6]
     
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  9. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    so when you declare something profoundly idiotic like you did you're just being amusing?

    So?
    Does it make you feel correct to insist that you are for no reason?
     
  10. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I have no problem accepting documented reality, and recognize that some do.
     
  11. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You mean you don't question narrative you just accept it as reality it's fine a lot of people do that.
     
  12. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I require credible evidence.

    When a Loser raves that he won "in a landslide!" and had it "stolen," I respond, "Show me."

    When he can't contrive any credible evidence, I know that he is lying and/or delusional.
     
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  13. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    As do I. You simply declaring something to be truth first you have zero credibility and therefore your opinion on what truth is has zero bearing on reality.
     
  14. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IOW, you enjoy a good conspiracy theory now and then.
     
  15. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If you can cite a consensus of credible authorities to support your article of faith, you have a legitimate basis for whatever it is you want to believe.

    I accept the certified electoral college votes of all 50 states and the acceptance of the results by the U.S. Congress in the 2020 election (just as in 2016) and have seen no credible evidence to impugn that reality.
     
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  16. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    wait a minute consensus consensus is nothing but people agreeing with each other. I don't care what people's opinion is.

    I thought you were talking about truth but really you're just talking about agreement.

    Mass delusion is a thing so you can't trust consensus that's not credible.
    so it's opinions of people who tell you what to think that your opinion is based on.

    I was 100% bright to question your credibility not only do you not have any it's actually negative.

    If you use say something regarding this topic it is to be distrusted because you just go along with popular opinion that's what consensus is.
    Because you think what you're told to think I have a mind of my own.

    I'm sorry you're limited in this way but just because you are doesn't mean everyone else is.
     
  17. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    All legal attempts, by Republicans and even by the most rabid of Trump worshipers, in every state as well as in federal courts, to challenge the legitimacy of the 2020 election have been exhausted. Trump lost. Irrational beliefs otherwise are irrelevant.

    Christopher Krebbs, the lifelong Republican whom Trump appointed to lead his Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency:

    It is long past the time the Cry Baby Loser should have stopped lying and whining, and accepted the will of the People like a patriotic, responsible adult.
     
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  18. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    List these court cases.
    Calling people names is immature and also indicative of desire to convince yourself of this.
     
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    What was the motive for trespassing into the Capitol if not for seditious purposes?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Well a bunch were charge with seditious conspiracy. Is seditious conspiracy not what Epps was involved in?
     
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    Yes, it doesn't sound like someone instigating a riot IF what he is saying here is true. And you are choosing to believe him, which is just absolutely hilarious! :roflol:

    What is the "Tucker Carlson treatment?"

    As in, you might ask Epps?
     
  22. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Is this what Epps did?

    Left-wing media or right-wing media?
     
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    To me, the perfectly legal and acceptable part was the peaceful protesting which took place. The illegal part was the breaking into the Capitol and attacking police. Are they the 'parts' as you see them?
     
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    Why, is Epps a Democrats or something?
     

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