Special Counsel Robert Hur says Biden 'willfully' kept classified documents but won't be prosecuted

he was VP and still had clearance to see/have the docs.

I agree that Biden was wrong to take them to his house.

 

Riddle me this Batman ..... How did the NARA know immediately what President Trump had but did not know what Vice President Biden had after 7 years?

 

They didn’t. You think he was hiding stuff they knew he had? Not even trump is that stupid….is he???

 

Wrong…again. As the Special Counsel pointed out in his report, Biden did what was demanded to return the documents and didn’t try to hide them or obstruct, unlike The Stain…

 

This. All Presidents have 'authority' to declassify documents under the Constitution but two of the charges listed in the warrants executed on the his residence in Florida didn't even require classified documents. These were concealing or destroying government records, and concealing documents as part of an effort to obstruct an investigation or other official effort. No 'top secret' stamp involved. Also Trumps initial problems arose because even if he did personally declassify the records found in his possession as he once claimed (he's gone dark on this issues since being charged BTW) he still didn't follow procedures for 'documenting' the declassification while doing so.

Result? There's no evidence or record of him doing so anywhere, not even witnesses who heard him say it! Which means effectively the documents remain classified because no-one in Government could possibly know they weren't! Now he's facing multiple charges under the Espionage Act for unauthorized possession of defense documents which is punishable by up to 10 years in prison! On top of that he faces obstruction of justice charges for trying to prevent the recovery of the records and making false statements. (Hint if your going to take government records and get asked to (politely) to hand them back don't lie and say you don't have them and then compound the problem by trying to hide them when the authorities come a looking!

Conclusion? All of this mess is entirely of his own making. If he had followed proper procedures? No problem. If he had cooperated from the start when asked to return the documents? Again no problem. Chances are he'd probably be getting the same free ride Biden got albeit most of Biden's records also appear to have been personal notebooks containing sections of sensitive information. Trump shot himslef in the foot simply by failing to return the docs when informed that the records were still classified.

 

I have no idea who his Boss is but Hur speaks for Hur, not 'his Boss.'

 

non compos mentis /nŏn kŏm″pəs mĕn′tĭs/

1. Not of sound mind and hence not legally competent.
2. Insane; not of sound mind; not in control of one's self.
3. Not of sound mind, memory, or understanding; in law, not competent to go to trial.

The Department of Justice believes that President Biden is non compos mentis!

 

Very simple and easy: the Orange Stain refused to return the documents . Which makes the case very very easy to get a conviction.

 

Since Hur can’t make a case, he is settling for character assasinstion by innuendo .
Typical rightie tactic when the facts aren’t on their side.

Who here believes the Republicans would pass on a chance to get Biden into court during an election ?

 

False 100% not true. Trump was in negotiations with them as to what of his records he could keep and for how long. It was the Biden regime that broke off negotiations and pretended like the presidential records act doesn’t exist so that he could try to make out his likely future opponent for reelection. Pure banana republic.

 

So the. All he had to do was comply with the subpoena. Instead he lied and hid stuff
And most of that was no presidential records! Plans to attack Iran are not presidential records.

 

It's odd that you mention that. I was talking to my ex the earlier today, the gal who works for the democrat party of CA, and she wanted me to do some Photoshop work for her. We eventually got around to politics and talked about Biden's recent problem. Keeping in mind she's a huge Bernie fan who was a delegate for him in Philly, she said she and others she works with don't think Biden will be the nominee. What she did say is that being a democrat at the highest levels or more about cash than anything else and she said nothing will bring in more cash for the party than if Trump wins in 2024.

 

Fundraising is essential for any party. Which is why trump using campaign money for his legal bills should worry you.

 

Bottom line in Hur’s report, leaving aside the snarky personal commentary…

- finds insufficient evidence of criminality
- finds innocent explanations for the conduct
- finds affirmative evidence Biden did not willfully withhold classified documents

Same result as Pence’s…..without the 400 pages…

The end

 

Couldn’t remember what, that he couldn’t remember when his child died?

 

Are you for releasing the recordings between Biden and his ghost writer? Apparently Biden knew he had classified documents in 2017. If true why didn’t Biden return them then?

 

Let the recordings betweenen Biden and his ghost writer determine criminality where apparently Biden said in 2017 he knew he had classified documents in his possession. Are you for releasing the recordings?

 

Biden admitted to his ghost writer he possessed classified documents and only returned them when asked, sort of. Biden lied about having secured those documents even when pictures showed they were in cardboard boxes in his garage. Are you for releasing the recordings?

 

Have the docs where? You do know the second Biden removed the documents from a designated secure area he committed a crime? Biden lied about having them in a secure area as seen by the pictures showing them in a cardboard box in his garage. He told his ghost writer he had classified documents in 2017. He is saying he didn’t know he had them since his staff packed up his office and moved them. How many proven lies will it take to convince you Biden is a criminal?

 

The ghostwriter obstructed the investigation by deleting the recordings.

 

I have always said he was wrong to have the docs. I clearly stated that in my post

But what your saying is that you also believe that TRump violated the law also then…right ?

 

How so and do you even know what is prima facie evidence?

Sure a defendant can but that does not preclude a prosecutor deciding a person is too mentally incompetent to stand trial, happens all the time.

 

If you rob a bank and I rob a bank and we both get caught my robbing a bank and being prosecuted has nothing to do with you being prosecuted. Trumps case has nothing to do with Biden's and nothing about it mitigates anything to do with Biden's. There is the LEGAL difference between a Senator and an President when it comes to classified material and even between a President and Vice-President when it comes to their records.

YES he shouldn't be!!!

But under a Biden/Garland DOJ he is.

Then let the impeachment begin, let's add this the the one going on.

They don't have to be marked to be classified. HE created his notes which contained classified INFORMATION. INFORMATION is classified not the physical document. All the notebooks he secreted away and didn't even tell his staff contained highly classified information and he WILLFULLY stored them in unsecured places so that he could use them to profit off a book.

What do you think they were doing???? And do you even know WHEN they did it?

Are you denying it?

Why do you assume that when it is about the Willis case and your claims that someone filed a complaint, a complaint which you can't produce?

I said

" (7) had they been a such a filing it would already be a part of the public record and Trump and his legal team would have copies. This is all the Fanni Willis show and she has been reaping the benefits"

It is YOU claiming that a DA cannot start an investigation into a crime unless someone files a complaint not mine so your claims of authority in the matter seem to fall quite short.

 

He IS a former President, and OFFICIAL position which comes under the PRA. My god man you don't know that?

 

Yet you cannot seem to demonstrate it and can only make specious statements without even reading the charges, typical.