Study: Hydroxychloroquine increases COVID-19 survival rates

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many doctors claim it’s effective but it is generic so no lobbying. Follow the money. Nine new billionaires due to this unapproved experimental treatment.
     
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    Does anyone on this forum who claims to be an expert on Covid 19 treatments have any evidence to back up what they say?

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    What unapproved experimental treatment are you referring to and since when are generic drugs not lobbied for? You even have a clue what you are stating?

    While you are at it telling people to follow the money, follow the class action law suits on drugs when pharmaceutical manufacturers are sued. Do you factor that into your equation of how long and how much money and what procedures they go through to develop a drug? You even know what the procedures are to get a drug approved? Of course you don't. Its just 9 guys who made quick money to you.
     
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    Your comment just shows you rationalize you do NOT trust doctors because you know a medical student who barely passed his exams. You use a fabricated story that proves nothing other than you think doctors are incompetent.
     
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    Stop fabricating. Enough. Who are the many doctors and since when do doctors need to lobby effective medication? What a ridiculous thing to contend. They produce a study of clinical trials in a medical journal to prove whether a treatment is effective or not.
     
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    Its even worse in 'middle management'. Can't recall the exact figures or where I saw them but the efforts of the large majority are actually counterproductive to an organizations success.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know so little about these unapproved experimental treatments? It takes 5 to 20 years for FDA approval and only pass if they do not cause deaths. 1 to 2 years for animal clinical trials. Not done. Only phase 1 and 2 of 4 phases of human clinical trials of which only 2 were done. You are phase 3.

    Emergency Use Authorization is only used for unapproved treatments.

    That you are unaware of this means you gave uninformed consent to be a test subject.
     
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    You are apparently unaware how much money Pharma uses to lobby.
     
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    Yeah! It wuz sum bloke at der pub wot told me so am he recons he is rite!
     
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    So you just blow off testimonies by doctors. You're not a serious truth-seeker.
     
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    No profit from writing a generic that has been around forever. You could apply that logic to any drug that is prescribed. It's only being prescribed because the drug maker is paying the doctor! This med is usually prescribed as a generic.

    I'm talking about Covid! Thousands of doctors have been writing scripts for Covid! Still are.
     
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    Yep! Sure do! Because as I have told you again and again that is NOT how medicine works

    EBP Evidence Based Practice means we rely of researched outcomes
     
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    Firstly, how exactly do you separate scripts for COVID from scripts for other conditions that HCQ is normally prescribed for?

    Secondly, that aside, a Doctor can prescribe a script of HCQ on a one off basis after reviewing his/her patients history and (assuming its for a low to regular dosage) still be pretty sure that a one off script will do minimal harm even if knowing at the same time it will do less than nothing to treat COVID.
     
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    Doctors themselves have said they prescribed it for covid.
     
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    LOL! How does that relate to anything from my post? Read again:

    "Ddyad said:
    Why would anyone want a cheap effective treatment?
    Where is the profit in that? ;-)"
     
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    It is impossible to have a rational conversation with a person in denial of facts. :angel:
     
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    LOL! Did you ever order a gin and tonic? How much did it cost you? Hint: more than HCQ.

    Evidence: Dirt cheap HCQ was targeted by Fake Science research. You know that - right?
     
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    Some Doctors. A minority. Which ultimately means nothing anyway unless the medical research/evidence backs it up. Which to date it hasn't. And of course The placebo effect is still a thing. Case in point? Doctors used to regularly proscribe antibiotics to their patients with common colds and other similar viral infections because those patients demanded it. Doesn't matter that the antibiotics have zero effect on viral infections. Doesn't matter they knew it was pointless. All that mattered was that the patient demanded it. And so, given it wouldn't do that patient any particular harm they wrote the script rather than lose a client. Write up until the time antibiotic resistant bacteria became a real and present danger and suddenly? No more.
     
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    In fact, doctors hoarded HCQ to treat themselves for C19.
     
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    In fact, the medical "research" was rigged to justify denying patients HCQ.
     
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    Your half of the conversation will still be rational. :)
     
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    How much does dexamethasone cost?
     
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