Support for gay marriage has fallen after Obergefell

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Grip on what? YOU need to get a grip on the reality of the CDC info. The inability of homosexuals to grasp such realities is why HIV continues to thrive among homosexuals.
     
  2. Battle3

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    When gays and bi men cause 93% of the spread of HIV, then they are the source of the problem. There is no way around that fact, unless you reject science.
     
  3. Battle3

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    "Anyone" can get HIV and spread it, but not "anyone" does. The CDC data shows 93% of new cases in 2013 were due to contact with gay or bi men, sharing needles (with no sexual activity) was 6.6%. Its not a problem of the general population.

    HIPAA does not prevent monitoring of people for public health issues such as ebola, measles, or hepatitis. And it does not prevent the medical system from addressing true public health issues. HIV and AIDS is the exception because the gay mob managed to exempt itself from the rules that everyone else is bound to follow.
     
  4. Polydectes

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    A small minority of gay and bi men, yes, them as a whole, no. The facts support my statements.
     
  5. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every time you post the 93% number it is you deliberately posting something false.

    HIV is a male disease, not a gay and bisexual disease. You try to exempt yourself by false numbers, but you are not exempt at all.

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    No, that is not what CDC statistics show.
     
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    Well...if HIV were to be acknowledged as mainly a gay affliction, that would bring into question the whole efficacy of gay normalization...and they can't have that.
     
  7. dixon76710

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    Actually, its much more prevalent among men who have sex with men, than it is among males.
     
  8. Battle3

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    Then prove it. I've provided the CDC data multiple times, and walked through it several times, that shows 93% of people who got HIV in 2013 acquired it through contact with gay or bi men.

    All you have been writing is "you're wrong" - that's not proof, that's just whining.
     
  9. Polydectes

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    Data that dosen't support your claim

    Your link.
     
  10. Polydectes

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    Actually it wouldn't. we know being gay doesn't cause HIV. in fact the vast majority of homosexual men don't have it.
     
  11. Cosmo

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    Your "math" is the result of subjective thinking.
    The CDC makes no such claim.
     
  12. Battle3

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    Then disprove it. I have walked you through the data step by step, you have not disproven it in any way. You don't like the data, you don't like the result, but facts are facts.
     
  13. Battle3

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    The CDC does not explicitly state such a politically incorrect conclusion that gays are the cause of the spread of HIV, but the CDC data certainly shows it to be the case.

    And if you don't like the data, then disprove it. I've presented it multiple times, with multiple links to tables and CDC presentations. You should not have trouble disproving it instead of just whining - but of course you won't because the CDC data is clear. The spread of HIV is due to contact with gay and bi men, that's a plain fact.
     
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    But according to the CDC HIV is non-existence among lesbians. Therefore, the entire legitimacy of male-female sex and marriage is called into question.
     
  15. Cosmo

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    I see no need to disprove your "assertion".
     
  16. Polydectes

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    You made it up, I posted exactly what was on the CDC website. It differs from what you claim.
    You have been proven wrong,you just don't accept it.
     
  17. Polydectes

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    It's already done about 20 pages ago
     
  18. Polydectes

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    Noit doesn't.You are manipulating data to support your agenda

    I did weeks ago.
    I did disprove itwith your link.
     
  19. Battle3

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    Wrong, again, and you lie. You referenced one chart and put up one number - the percentage of men who acquired HIV through gay sex. That number is in the 60-68% range depending on the year.

    I put up multiple CDC sources all showing the same data - that in 2013, 93% of all people who acquired HIV acquired it through contact with gay or bi men.

    Go back to post #234 and start over. The CDC data is clear, you are wrong.

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    See my above response. You have disproven nothing, you have presented one number out of context, and are scientifically dishonest.
     
  20. Polydectes

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    Yes I have, you are just in denial.
     
  21. Battle3

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    Then repeat it, if you have then it should be easy to repeat.
     
  22. Polydectes

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    Fair enough.

     
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    Once again you are giving the percentage of gay men who acquired HIV, not the percentage of all people who acquired HIV from contact with gay or bi men. You neither refuted nor disproved the fact that 93% of all people who acquired HIV in 2013 acquired it through contact with gay or bi men.

    Now answer this question: how many people (not just men) acquired HIV from contact with gay or bi men?
     
  24. JakeJ

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    Your "data" does not prove your claim. It disproves it. The data proves that HIV is a male disease, not a gay disease.
     
  25. Battle3

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    Gay and bi men are male, at least biologically.
     

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