Supreme Court allows Texas to begin enforcing controversial immigration law

No, the argument that letting in millions of random, unknown people through willful refusal to enforce the law "is a victimless" crime is though.

 

You’re just making up stuff
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna96351

 

I make up nothing.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigra...a-million-deportable-immigrants-from-removal/

Migrants without visas or other entry documents can install the CBP One app on their mobile phones and use it to schedule an appointment to present themselves at specified southwest border ports of entry. A recent media report shows that 99 percent of the migrants who had these appointments were exempted from Title 42 expulsion and released into the U.S. interior.

llegal entries aren’t the only problem. Mayorkas has prohibited enforcement measures against migrants who use nonimmigrant visitor’s visas to enter the United States lawfully and don’t leave when the period authorized for their visit has expired.

 

I really don't get why SCOTUS kicked the can on this back to the 5th....it's just going to cause total confusion.

Appeals court blocks Texas immigration law shortly after Supreme Court action

 

Yeah this is getting weird. Back and forth we go.

 

This is going to get even more into a legal quagmire. Mexico has officially stated they will not accept those from the Texan govt. Not sure how that is going play out, but if Trump didn't derail the last agreed upon solution, we would be in a better position.

Now here we go again with the legal hand wringing all because of some a-holes who do not wish to compromise.

 

Its certainly easier to argue with points you created for me. You cannot refute the fact that crime committed by illegal immigrants could not have been committed if the border was secure. you cannot defend the position: "Illegal immigration is a victimless crime." on merit.

 

Honestly, I don't understand his diehard supporters....they prefer to have the issue to bitch and moan about and render their hate onto someone and are willing to shoot themselves in the foot for the "privilege".

 

Yeah his junk is getting so old and decrepit, that most MAGAs don't even accept actual recorded events.

 

My thoughts are that feds should enforce federal law and states should enforce state law. My thoughts are also that, if this is going to go into effect, there has to be a decent standard for what constitutes reasonable suspicion, which I doubt will happen.

 

You think it is crazy that feds and state law enforcement . . . have jurisdictions? Is your alternative some kind of country-wide, state-agnostic police force?

 

Let's say I'm a cop in Las Cruces, NM and when I'm off duty I drive 30 miles to El Paso, Texas to do some shopping. While I'm there I see a bank robbery taking place and I'm able to follow the perp and arrest him several blocks away. Now tell me, is anyone going to argue about jurisdictions and the like?

 

I'm going to assume you've never been to Texas. If you did, you'd know that ANYONE can perform an arrest in that kind of situation. That isn't subject to jurisdiction.

A better, honest comparison, would be if I was a cop from Alaska and I visit Texas and I see someone buying beer at 9:50 on a Sunday, should I be able to arrest him for it?

 

I lived in El Paso for two years and now live 30 miles away. Plus I would hardly compare buying beer to being in the country illegally, besides, it's the person selling the beer who would get in trouble. Come to think of it, I don't think it's beer that's the problem, I believe it's hard liquor.

 

It's beer as well. And both crimes are misdemeanors -- actually, crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor, but simply BEING here illegally I don't think is even criminal, making selling beer outside of hours technically, legally speaking, worse. But you avoided the question. Should you be able to arrest anyone in this situation?

 

People coming in with the app are doing so legally. How does that prove we don’t deport anyone?

 

A sworn law enforcement officer should enforce all laws s/he sees being broken. In your example, an out of state law enforcement officer might not want to deal with arresting someone who is simply buying beer. The officer might just think it's not his job, or arresting him will take hours out of his day, it's not a big deal so he ignores it and so on. BTW, you never answered my question about the bank robbery.

In the end, Texas and the Supreme Court gave Texas cops the jurisdiction to arrest illegals.

I'd like to point out that most liberals say they're against illegals yet they said nothing when Biden reversed all of Trump's policies and allowed illegals to come here after literally telling them to surge the border. When the illegals arrive via the magic word 'asylum' Biden's people releases them into the country and even gives them plane and bus tickets to where they want to go, all while the same people bitched and moaned when DeSantis and Abbott did the same thing. Then Biden went to court to fight anything any state did to stop illegal entry. On top of that, Biden recently said the border isn't secure all while HR2 has been sitting on Schumer's desk since last May.

The majority of the left seem to treat illegals like they treat crime in CA and NYC - they want it to stop but no one does anything substantial to stop it and that inaction is actually an enticement for more illegals and crime.

 

Again you name another crime they might commit as proof their being here has a victim. You’re arguing against your own claim and can’t see it. It’s fine.

 

No they're not.

You mean besides 10 million illegal aliens entering in 4 years I suppose.

 

Yeah I agree , feds need to enforce federal law. When it doesn't happen, what are the consequences? If Feds were enforcing federal law, we wouldn't have this problem we are currently discussing.

 

They're patrolling the border. The way this has functioned during the Biden administration is the coyotes take people to the border, where they wander the desert looking for Border Patrol and turn themselves in. They say a couple of magic words, get a free meal, and a bus or plane ride to wherever they want to go.

Things have changed now. They come across the border, and oops, Border Patrol has been displaced by Texas officials. These people have no place to live, no place local to go; they're wandering the desert trying to get to their final destination expecting the Biden administration to ignore immigration enforcement and finish the last mile of the coyote's travel agency. The Texas plan is to secure the border physically and then obstruct this pitifully easy migration flow that the Biden administration has effectively been working with the cartels to complete. If the Biden/Coyote travel agency is no longer a guaranteed smooth trip, it can act as a deterrent. That's why our Border Patrol has been supportive of Texas, they want someone to protect our border and they know they've been ordered not to.

Federal law says they are to be detained, so that's what Texas is doing. Reasonable suspicion isn't hard to identify. They just have to ask the migrants in the middle of the desert where they're coming from and where they're going. "I'm walking to my uncle's house in Chicago" is a clear indicator of what they're doing. Also, remember, up until this point they aren't hiding what they're doing. They expect the authorities on the other side of the border to transport them wherever they want to go and to get a court date ten years in the future giving them protection from deportation during that time.

 

This is false. Even Mayorkas has testified under oath that the majority are allowed to stay. By default, they stay; the exception is the deportation. It blows my mind that there are still Americans who believe this. It really says a lot about where they get their information.

 

You re incorrect. You are creating false positions and arguing with yourself. My position is still solid. I named crimes that have already been committed that could have been prevented if we controlled who entered the country. You asked how I was harmed, and I answered directly. I haven't even started listing the crimes committed by those that should have never been here in the first place.

Lets use Laken Riley as an example. Are you claiming she is not a victim?

 

They can beat the **** out of NY cops and not do a full day of jail time. Imagine what it would take for democrats to deport them.

 

So you’re claiming zero deportations in 4 years?
People entering via the app are here legally. Find a ruling that says otherwise.