Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

It was YOUR point now try addressing the simple specific questions I asked you

What if the genetic defect, if one arm is not developing is the baby fair game to be killed? Yes or no?

What about Down's Syndrome? Would the elimination of persons with Down's be a worthy goal have having unrestricted abortion? Yes or no?

 

So NO law on abortion at all, unrestricted up to the moment of birth and if the baby survives an abortion the doctor should not try to save it but ensure it dies as is the wish of the mother who wants it dead?

I prefer our fundamental inherent rights with which we are created be ensured how about you?

 

It’s up to the parents, not me. Stop trying to make decisions for people. Ever heard of freedom?

 

What rights are those? There’s no right to be born, I checked the constitution

 

Babies don't survive abortions. If the fetus survives after removal than those are involuntary c-sections

 

Hehe, That's the ticket, turn it right back on them.

 

Yes babies which one second earlier were unborn babies survive abortions. In fact I saw interviews with two just yesterday, they are now adult women.

 

The right to life with which we are CREATED. Check the DoI which sets those fundamental inherent rights.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life,...."

Not born with CREATED with.

There is no right to an abortion, I and the SCOTUS it seems checked the Constitution.

 

Got it so I can force someone to give me an organ?
The declaration has no legal weight behind it anyway, if it did then a woman would have the right to pursuing their happiness with an abortion

 

Denying an American constitutional rights in that manner is the type of thing that sanctions slavery.

Meanwhile, the authoritarians are going to have to promote even more intrusive government if they hope to deny American the liberty they have had for half-a-century:

Telemedicine abortion providers see a surge in interest
If the Supreme Court adopts the draft opinion, experts forecast that
people seeking abortions will turn more heavily to telemedicine and
abortion pills that can be mailed discreetly to a home.

Data from online abortion site Plan C shows a surge in traffic coming
from both Republican-controlled states like Texas and Florida, which
are set to limit abortion access, and also from Democrat-held states
like California and New York, which are unlikely to limit access.​

 

Stop with the inane questions for lack of an intellectual response. The DoI sets forth the principles on which we were founded and embodied in the Constitution.


Again
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life,...."

Not born with CREATED with.

 

It was YOUR point now try addressing the simple specific questions I asked you

What if the genetic defect, if one arm is not developing is the baby fair game to be killed? Yes or no?

What about Down's Syndrome? Would the elimination of persons with Down's be a worthy goal have having unrestricted abortion? Yes or no?

 

Yes babies survive abortions if one does and the mother still wants it dead should she have the right to make sure it ends up dead?

 

So you missed the days your civics class studied the founding document of our country?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life,...."

Not born with CREATED with.

 

So what happened to the whole democracy thingy? And what this court is apparently going to say is there is no fundamental right to kill an unborn baby and RvW did not grant such a right, one of the reasons Justice Ginsberg said it was bad law logically and constitutionally.

Why are you afraid of the people finally have a say about it?

 

Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Except women. Sorry.

 

I don’t want to decide for them, I want them to decide after the testing is done. I know it’s strange to you that I’d want to let people make their own choices.

 

Life becomes before all. Do I get to kill you just to make me happy, I don't think so. Sorry.

 

Then why did you bring it up as what would be allowed even as you support some restriction. The is a WIDE gamut of disabilities a baby could be born with, would the mother thinking brown eyes instead of blue a disability be justification to kill a baby? Missing a finger. What type of disability are YOU TALKING ABOUT? And what about Down's Syndrome would the elimination of persons with Down's be a worthy goal have having unrestricted abortion? Yes or no?

 

I brought it up because I don’t want to see any restrictions until after genetic testing. Like I already said.
Stop trying to dictate to other people, let them decide

 

What kind of genetic testing and what would be the threshold to lift a restriction? There is a WIDE gamut of disabilities a baby could be born with, would the mother thinking brown eyes instead of blue a disability be justification to kill a baby? Missing a finger. What type of disability are YOU TALKING ABOUT? And what about Down's Syndrome would the elimination of persons with Down's be a worthy goal have having unrestricted abortion? Yes or no?

 

Again, I would have no restrictions until after genetic testing.

 

Opening Post is disinformation. The Court has simply noted that this is an issue for the States and upheld Dodd's 15 week standard, which is perfectly reasonable and more permissive than most of Europe.

CNN Poll: SCOTUS draft decision hasn't changed the overall picture for the midterm elections

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"polls have consistently shown that support for abortion drops off sharply after" 13 weeks. By the second trimester support is down to 34%.

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Dems should simply fix the the economy and return us to the rapidly rising wages of the Trumpian era.

Year End Numbers​

The glory of the Trump years followed by the crushing Biden/Harris disaster.

Year End Numbers.​

 

That is an interesting point about the Polls not moving much.
Still the decision isn't 100% Final, and the Election is a long way off.

 

The authoritarians cannot spin this retrogression in personal freedom, antithetical to the progress that has been achieved in advanced democracies, as other than statist intrusion into what has been respected as a private, personal decision for half a century.

“You have no choice. Not your choice,
not your body, your body is mine!”
https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1523317509994156035?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1523317509994156035|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.newsweek.com/man-tells-abortion-rights-activists-your-body-mine-viral-video-1704667

The zealots are sounding like the Taliban.​