Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

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  1. Sage3030

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    Anyone who didn’t see this coming when Harry Reid did his thing and was asked about this very thing happening and he brushed it off, is completely out of the loop.
     
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    The decision to overturn Roe has not yet been made.

    When it is, indeed, the House and Senate may take action to guarantee women's rights.

    But one thing is certain, if conservative judges decide to tear up Roe, there will be a political cost to the GOP.

    A political party that wants to set a country back 50 years cannot get away with it.
     
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    Set us back 50 years? By making abortion state level and not fed level?! You guys can't even define woman which is a foundation to the understanding as to how our species procreates and you don't think that's regressive? When was the term woman invented? Like the beginning of language? Slightly more than 50 years.

    lol.
     
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    Certainly, Reid takes a small share of the blame for our current dysfunction, but that's like blaming Robert Oppenheimer for Chernobyl...

    Reid cracked the door and McConnell brought in the bulldozers... history will read that McConnell's TWO moves destroyed the institution of the SCOTUS, likely forever...
     
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    No, I don't have a party, and "the left" is not a political party.

    Cynical Democratic politicians may think it in their partisan interest to let authoritarian Republicans screw themselves.

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    Reid is the best thing that could have happened to the Republican Party 10 years ago. Today, Biden has replaced him as their greatest gift.
     
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    maybe so when Trump was President, the economy was booming and we weren't funding a war but now people are struggling buy gas, food, and shelter. That takes precedent over abortion policy. You'll see in November.
     
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    As long as it's not a Constitutional amendment any law that the Federal government enacts usurping the rights of the States can (and will) be challenged legally. Leaking the document might be a gift to the Republicans in that by the time the dust up over it settles people will continue to face the stark reality of the effects inflation is having on their lives. Abortion is a single issue item that's lower on the totem pole of people's minds. It's just a shiny object for the Left right now.
     
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    He was specifically asked about the GOP doing this in a press conference where he talked about how he was nuking the filibuster He knew what could come and laughed it off as nothing. That’s why those who didn’t know THEN are out of the loop.
     
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    Well, thank goodness you have SOMETHING positive going on under there...
     
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    He truly underestimated the shittiness of McConnell and Co. No argument there...

    And here's where we are because of it

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-con...nce-conservatives-took-control-122402500.html

    You can blame Harry for opening the door for this, but not the low quality of the people that took advantage....
     
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    When trump was president we were locked in our homes and unemployment was over 10%
     
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    You don't know how to define a woman either.

    The question was asked to three conservative elected officials, they all had different definitions.
     
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    The effects of inflation are much less serious than the abolition of basic women's rights.
     
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    Why wait, why not make it federal law so we don't ever have to deal with it again? Your BS about 50 years blah blah could be handled in two weeks? Why are the DEMS not acting today???????
     
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    Listen to this.

    I respect your attempts to trivialize the upcoming Supreme Court decision, but I guarantee you - mark my words - that the reversal of Roe vs. Wade will have a significant effect on the midterms.

    Moderate voters don't want to live in a country where some states want to return to the 19th century.
     
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    Women's rights are not being taken away with the reversal of Roe. The question is being turned back to the States where it belongs. Elect politicians that agree with your position and there will be no problem.
     
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    Trivialize lol, wrong again. Mark my words your Dem leaders do not give a damn about this other than to use rhetoric for political gain. They could end all this if they really cared, they don't BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T! So all your outrage, all the left's protests should be pointed dirctly at Dem leaders who are refusing to fix this lefty travesty.
    The other explanation is that this decision really won't change much, in Cali and NY you'll be able abort babies up until birth, in the southern states you'll be able to abort in the 1st trimester. Different culture different rules because lefty politicians don't want their name on an abortion bill.
     
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    Do you not understand how the senate works?
     
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    15 weeks of unrestricted abortion, your hyperbole aside, is a pro-choice position, not an anti-abortion position. Further, it's perfectly reasonable, and a more permissive standard than most of Europe and even France. Only the extremists absolutists are whining about it. In the real world, paycheck eating inflation IS the big big deal.

    Dem Abortion Meltdown Isn’t Slowing GOP Midterms Momentum.

    “Americans in the heartland are no doubt more concerned with the fact that we’ll all be eating cheap ramen if Biden’s economy keeps spinning out of control. People still vote with their checkbooks (Google it, younger readers) more than their genitals, much to the chagrin of the Democrat elite.”

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    A poll that found more likely voters would favor an overturn of Roe than would be opposed. "The numbers were 48%-45%, so the margin wasn’t huge, but the prevailing narrative from the left is that Americans overwhelmingly want Roe to remain in place."

    Once again, the Lying Fake News, in coordination with the political goals of the Left, are lying to and about the American People.
     
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    And temporarily taking the religious and Constitutional questions about abortion out the equation (which MAGA's are incapable of), it's likely to be a terrible decision for economic reasons (which MAGA's no longer care about anyway).

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/yellen-says-eliminating-abortion-rights-154753895.html

    Naturally, Lil Timmy Scott doesn't want anybody looking at anything other than his side of the issue

    SNIP
    "I think people can disagree on the issue of being pro-life or pro abortion. But in the end, I think framing it in the context of labor force participation, it just feels callous to me," said Scott, adding that he was raised by a single mother in poverty.
    ENDSNIP

    Yeah, it's callous for the SecTreas to bring up an aspect of this that WILL happen and the right wants to avoid....
     
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    You must be referring to the Democratic Party (although there are pro-choice Republicans, of course.)

    In any event, the senate and house have not confided in me, nor authorized me to speak on their behalf.

    Just to cite a few cogent facts:

    In 2019, 92.7% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (6.2%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (<1.0%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.

    At 13 weeks, a fetus is about 2.9 inches long, weighs about 0.81 ounces, and a brain has not formed.

    The Christian tradition for many centuries, accepted in America until fairly recently, was that human life begins at the “quickening” - first fetal movement, around 18 weeks.

    Increasingly, women who make an informed, personal decision to terminate their pregnancies do so via medication abortion. When misoprostol and mifepristone are used together, they have about a 98% effectiveness rate and are very safe.

    The Food and Drug Administration has approved medication abortion for up to 10 weeks of pregnancy, and that timeframe will likely increase. (WHO guidelines say it can be used up to 12 weeks at home.)

    The medical approach now accounts for most abortions in the United States, and unless the authoritarian states interdict the mails and censor the internet, women evading statist control, will increasingly opt for that approach.
     
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    The WHO also said that kids could sit 3' from each other rather than 6' and that kids under 5 shouldn't be forced to wear masks. The FDA isn't exactly big on following the WHO's guidance.
     
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    Agree now why won't the democratic party, which would have some Republican support, introduce and pass a law this week? I assure you Biden would sign it. Instead of dividing the country with rhetoric, why won't they do something about it federally, today???? My opinion is they don't give a **** about a women's right to choose and will let the left flounder, scream, protest etc to score political points. One thing is for damn sure they don't want to pass a law which would make the courts decision obsolete.

    Just like everything else the left does:
    BLM yet they support defund the police in areas where black on black murders is at a alltime high.

    Minorities are undereducated yet they support unions that wouldn't go back to teaching those inner city kids.

    They want minimum wage increases yet support open borders so those come over drive labor costs down.

    Corporate tax increases yet won't reform the tax code that allows loopholes for corporations to get out of taxes.

    I could go on and on....They've had the house, senate and presidency and have literally done nothing but bipartisan infrastructure and talked about more handouts which would drive inflation even higher. It's ridiculous anyone could support any of them.
     
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