target's"tuck friendly" swim suits

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  1. Jolly Penguin

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    Not by the unborn they weren't. The unborn is Innocent. You could argue it isn't out equal or isn't deserving of protection, but the above is not a rational argument. Being raped by one being doesn't thereby entitle you to kill another.
     
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    The people who don’t understand that, are the bully’s.
     
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    Why are you two bickering over semantics and wording?

    At the end of the day you either believe the unborn at a certain stage of development is our equal or you don't. It does not matter what you call it. Word games don't make it more sensible to see a freshly ferilized egg cell as our moral equal.Nor do word games make it sensible to view a being as morally different a moment before and after birth.
     
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    Please don't make excuses for not reading the full context of an argument on this thread and then being called out on your ignorance. If you don't want to actually read the entire argument between another poster and me, because you don't think I am important enough for you to do that--strange--then please just don't post about it. This would be like me posting about a topic that I did not do a lot of research on, and then when I get called out on it, I say, "Oh, well, that topic was not important enough to really do research on." It's weird, pathetic, juvenile, sophomoric, etc.
     
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    Words matter, though. Words are the tools we use to express our thoughts and describe reality. The left has bastardized language in an attempt to bring us to a topsy-turvy world in which up is down, down is up, men are women, and women are men. We must stand for truth.
     
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    I disagree. As do most Americans
    The fetus is innocent but I will place the rights of a conscious person over the rights of unformed cells with no ability to perceive its own existence or pain every day of the week.
     
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    You are not stating disagreement with what I wrote and you quoted. You are doing exactly as I suggested actually.
     
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    Read my signature

    Byeeeee!
     
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    No. There are not “only two sexes”

    As we learn more about the variability underpinning “intersex/DSD” the more we realise it is a spectrum

    Here are SOME of the disorders
    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diffe... happens because of a,when they're a teenager.
    A few more
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    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41574-018-0010-8

    And then there is this

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279170/
     
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    No, I'm not against selling candy cigarettes.
     
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    What, you mean they were not SPECIFICALLY marketed to children?
     
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    You think that this is made up or something?
     
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    What the? The are adult sized :roll:
     
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    Yes. The fact these were marketed to children is a lie based on misinformation on social media
     
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    So explain how a rainbow coloured Batman doll can cause “gay” whilst candy cigarettes don’t encourage smoking
     
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    Yeah, it appears that the story is inaccurate, after I just checked into it. The thing is, that to many of us, it was PERFECTLY believable that some stupid corporation went ultra woke and sold this kind of crap in kids sizes. If you would be against that, then you and I could stand together on it, but if you believe that the culture will NEVER go this far in the future, then I would suggest that you are being naive. Stand by... you'll see.
     
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    You either produce sperm or egg or neither (or both?). There are no other options.
     
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    Ok, so name a third 'sex.' Is it 'inter-sex?'
     
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    Yeah, it appears that the story is inaccurate, after I just checked into it. The thing is, that to many of us, it was PERFECTLY believable that some stupid corporation went ultra woke and sold this kind of crap in kids sizes. If you would be against that, then you and I could stand together on it, but if you believe that the culture will NEVER go this far in the future, then I would suggest that you are being naive. Stand by... you'll see.
     
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    So you don’t believe little boys can become little girls. That's great. You're against transgender ideology then.
     
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    Yes/no it is more a spectrum because it is so complex. Post 110 above lists some of the genetic anomalies that can lead to intersex/DSD but there are a whole lot more. Some like Androgen Insensitivity Disorder the child will be born male but his cells do not respond to testosterone so he cannot develop secondary sex characteristics. If it is severe enough (CAID) they will have XY chromosomes but have female characteristics.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

    The opposite is CAH congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...enal-hyperplasia/symptoms-causes/syc-20355205

    Intersex are 1.7% - 2% of the population. That is more than people with true red hair
     
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    And why was it believable?
     
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    Because for a long time they were denied equal rights not to mention fear of harm, and no more than heteros do.
     
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    Hermaphrodites.
     
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