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  1. Bowerbird

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    I didn’t “cite” it. I made a reference to it. Many think that Transgenderism can be brought on by social influence - I was burying that idea
     
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    Mate it’s called “world view bias they believe because they WANT to believe
     
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    If you had a daughter born intersex - I am sure you would love and support her through whatever journey she feels is right for her.
     
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    So if you agree that there is a physiological basis then you should be supporting LGBTQI. Increase inclusiveness and assist people to understand that it takes all kinds of people to fill a spectrum

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    Actual transgenderism can't. Confusion about it certainly can. Not everyone going through a tomboy or effeminate phase is transgender.
     
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    And those clear females and clear males can never become the opposite sex?

    Would you say that population wide, the number of arms that a human has is a "spectrum?"
     
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    Social media influencing ideology (of any sort)... Seems plausible but how would you go about studying that?
     
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    It was a highly problematic paper and not backed by other research on gender identity which actually supports it being anything but fluid
     
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    Again, how would they study that? Surveys?
     
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    Which is why gender affirming care is very prolonged to ensure the right decision is made at the right time
     
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    Never said it doesn't. Or, couldn't. You asked if I opposed it, which I do not.

    I don't give a **** about rainbow colored Batman dolls, either. But, there are a lot of people who do, as you can see. I bet a lot of them don't want the sell of candy cigarettes, either. Whatcha think?

    People are instinctively protective of their children. Crazy, right??
     
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    I would have to dig out the paper again and it is late at night here. Zorro posted the paper with a claim that it had been removed due to left wing pressure or something along those lines. I did review it at the time and found several errors
     
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    Yes and stirring up hate toward non binary and intersex/DSD children will not smooth their path through life
     
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    The Leftists are the ones stirring up hate. Just like it's the Leftists claiming that there's a "trans genocide" taking place, which is another lie.
     
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    And why we shouldn't push it on impressionable children too young to consent.
     
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    See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.
     
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    I would be very skeptical of any such research paper, including the ones you say go the other way. This is a highly politically volatile topic and I wouldn't trust any researcher to not be extremely biased. I bet many if not most of the "research" showing results in either direction are highly suspect.
     
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    It should be illegal for anyone under the age of 21.
     
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    I am going to try and listen to and assess your position fairly without bias. I have a few different comments related to this line of thinking that you keep pushing.

    - If they can come up with an actual objective genetic test that indicates that someone is a different gender, I know I personally would put far more credence in that determination than I would vs the self-reported variety coming from a pre-teen. Something about a 12 year old boy telling me that instead of being a budding run of the mill effeminate homosexual boy that likes boys, they are actually a budding heterosexual female that like boys, especially before their bodies start to change, just doesnt strike me as nearly convincing enough to be halting their natural biological processes based on their feelings. Call me crazy, but I just dont find 12-year-old minds to be all that insightful.


    -Being that you seemingly put so much faith in this concept, can you tell me if you know the percentage of people that are currently claiming to be trans that also show these genetic anamolies that you reference? That is a sincere question. Do we know that number? Do we know what percentage of people claiming to be trans that show no genetic anomoly whatsoever?

    -If it correlates highly, I would say that lends far more credence to what you are pushing. Conversely, if it does not correlate highly, it takes away from the legitimacy of your position. If it does correlate highly I would guess that the LGBTQ community would be taking great pains to make that fact well known. If it does not correlate highly, I would guess that you will not find anything mentioning this in the literature. Those are just common-sense conclusions.
     
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    after 60 odd years of listening to these moral outrages this one had ALL the red flags and is little different than the "proctor and gamble" satanist scare.

    When 1980s Satanic Panic Targeted Procter & Gamble - Atlas Obscura

    american capitalism is demonstrated most openly in the street corners of chicago, but even the biggest corporations engage in sabotage and character assassination.
     
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    Where is that hetero section at Target?

    When was the hetero parade?
     
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    Protection from rainbow colored dolls? Huh…<shrug>
     
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    How is a rainbow tshirt for children marketed for trans customers?
     
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    Looks like enough people didn't like so as to drop Target's face value by $9,000,000,000.

    Just because you don't agree doesn't make any less of a reality.
     
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    They're targeting children. Obviously a lot of people don't dig it.

    Just leave the kids out of it. It's that simple.
     

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