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    Because of the way that the culture is going. Do you remember Balenciaga advertising bondage teddies using kids?
     
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    Just so we're clear, it's NOT a spectrum if someone is a clear male or female?
     
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    Are we talking individuals or population? On an individual level you can have clear females and clear males. Population wide though it is definitely a spectrum.

    Then there is the issue of EDCs. Endocrine Disrupting Chemicals. That is plastics and other chemicals that disrupt the hormone system. You know, the system that assists in developing and maintaining sexual, and bodily health.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27660460/

    It is not the internet causing an increase in transgenderism but the plastics industry that is polluting our planet must be delighted that so many think it is books and rainbow coloured toys
     
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    ONE company that was rightly kicked in the arse. But as I have pointed out previously if candy cigarettes do not influence children to smoke why would a rainbow coloured teddy bear? Look there has been more research in gender identity than you would think and it is not that malleable.

    There was a theory in psychology in the 60s and 70s that sex identity is learnt. Famously the case of David Reimer completely disproved that
    As did many boys born with intersex conditions who were surgically altered to female as babies.
    https://humanrights.gov.au/our-work/lgbti/surgery-intersex-infants-and-human-rights-2009
     
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    yes.
     
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    "Rainbow coloured teddy bear?" As in reference to Balenciaga?

    So why do you cite the Reimer case?
     
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    Individuals.

    And those clear females and clear males can never become the opposite sex?

    Would you say that population wide, the number of arms that a human has is a "spectrum?"

    This study is linking IV with endocrine-disrupting chemicals. It is not linking gender identity/transgenderism with endocrine-disrupting chemicals. Are you seeing some sort or connection?
     
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    @Bowerbird

    sample size 8 billion. how many in a "spectrum?"

    it is hard to know if every one is "clear male or female." XXX and XYY are not rare combinations, hermaphrodites are not unknown.. modern agriculture relies on profligate use of hormones.
     
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    Well I have to assume that you are NOT saying that it's hard to know if ANYONE is "clear male or female."
     
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    i've never had any trouble, but there are sea stories....

    disease? mental condition? victims of their own teachers? whatever. they are children, not sacrificial pawns in this culture war.
     
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    Wait, so you don't believe in transgender ideology?
     
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    i don't know. is there a link or reference to this "transgender ideology?" maybe you can give me your abridged version?

    this issue does not effect me, or most people. what is wrong with the approach of allowing the professionals to study the phenomena before traumatizing the kidsand terrorizing their families? ?
     
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    The common number I have seen is between 1.7 and 2% of the population whereas transgender are 0.1% of the population

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender#Sexual_orientation
     
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    To show that transgenderism has a more physiological than psychological basis
     
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    How do you “know” transgenderism does not have a physiological basis? There is research supporting the fact that transgender brains on scans appear to have physiological features more in common with their identified sex
     
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    Not for a second. The one research paper that supported the idea that social media was influencing transgender ideology has been pulled for questionable methodology
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender#Sexual_orientation
     
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    Sorry, I'm confused why you cite this pulled study. Does it have something to do with you not believing in transgender ideology?
     
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    When did I say that transgenderism does not have a physiological basis?
     
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    Because of the intersex stuff?
     
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    Basically the idea that males can become females and females can become males.

    Got a daughter?

    Well it depends on what you mean by that. How are kids being 'traumatised' and how are their families being 'terrorized?' As for allowing the "professionals" to study the phenomena, they are free to study whatever they like. Who is stopping them? But it seems that they believe that the study has now been done and the results are in: pumping kids full of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones is the way to go.
     
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    i do not think this has been done to a homo sapiens.

    is it possible? not in my lifetime, i do not think.

    if i had a daughter, a more rational fear is that she might fall for a drummer, or a motorcyclist than that some old man dressed like mother goose is reading fairy tales at the library. or some creative seamstress leaving a little more room on the bottom.
     
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    You fell for fake news…<shrug>
     
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    Well it depends on what you mean by that. How are kids being 'traumatised' and how are their families being 'terrorized?'
     
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    It was PERFECTLY believable.
     
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    To the gullible
     
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