Tea Party is racist, Christianist, and authoritarian, study finds.

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  1. Dan40

    Dan40 New Member

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    We CAN DO whatever we have the balls to do.

    Once you realize that before the government can spend a cent, they must take that cent OUT of the economy. I hear political pundits saying every cent of welfare, or whatever dollars spent, returns $1.84. If they have such "MAGIC DOLLARS," THEY'D STILL BE BETTER LEFT IN THE ECONOMY.

    Govt spending is like a wounded soldier getting a blood transfusion for bleeding out of his belly. The govt sticks a needle and tube in his left arm. and the other end of the tube goes in his right arm. This is fine until he bleeds out and dies.

    Compromise is fine if you compromise with me I'm all for it. But I suspect you have no interest in that, just as I have no interest in compromising with you to allow rampant insanity to continue..

    Spending, lately and deficits
    2011 $3,818.8T and <$1,645.1T>
    2010 $3,456.2T and <$1,293.5T>
    2009 $3.517.7T and <$1,412.7T>
    2008 $2,982.5T and <$458.6b>


    That's $13,775.2 TRILLION IN SPENDING, or $3,443.8 TRILLION PER YEAR

    And $4,809.9 TRILLION IN OVERSPENDING [DEFICITS] or $1,202.475 TRILLION PER YEAR in deficits.

    In 2007 and all earlier years, this nation NEVER had a deficit of even HALF a TRILLION DOLLARS.

    No matter where we put the blame, presidents or Congress, We have spent nearly $14 TRILLION DOLLARS, AND RACKED UP ALMOST $5 trillion in deficits.

    THAT IS ENOUGH GOVT SPENDING.

    Especially when we look at ALL that it has done for us. GDP in the tank. Net loss of jobs, Money devalued, Credit rating downgraded, housing prices and sales, TERRIBLE. Banks won't loan, business won't hire.

    If the govt "leaders" delivered all this with SPENDING, then its worth a chance to stop spending rather than get more of this wonderful "result."
     
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    because blacks are racist and hate white people
     
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    Ok fine...you can't or won't do this yourself...

    A Note on Dale Robertson, self-described “tea party leader”
    Wednesday, January 6, 2010
    By Felicia Cravens
    In response to questions we have received regarding Dale Robertson and his involvement with HoustonTPS, and specifically in reference to his attendance at our rally on 27 Feb 2009, we would like to state that:



    1. He is NOT a member of our Leadership team.

    2. He owns a website with which we have never been affiliated.

    3. He has never been a part of organizing any of the Tea Party rallies in the Houston area, or any other area that we can find.

    4. We addressed some issues involving him back in April. Here it is on our website, where Mr. Robertson himself comments: http://houstontps.org/?p=318

    5. We do not choose to associate with people that use his type of disgusting language.



    A search on Google yields plenty of information about Mr. Robertson, and a search of the various leadership teams among legitimate national tea party organizations show him nowhere to be found.

    When did that happen?
     
  4. kk8

    kk8 New Member Past Donor

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    Forgot the link...forgive me.

    http://houstontps.org/?p=1050
     
  5. Buzz62

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    That's when...
     
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    kk8 New Member Past Donor

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    Oh of course I remember now...that was right after you accused basically every one of the tea party people as being racists, and tried to insinuate that all the people with the signs in your video were all tea party people....right real MATURE discussion.
     
  7. Buzz62

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    OK but I don't think you are getting the jist of COOPERATION and COMPROMISE.

    See, I submit to one of your important points, and then you submit to mine. Its a time-honored tradition that works wonders...you should try it.

    Hell ALL T-People should try it...maybe then articles like the one in the OP, wouldn't come out...
     
  8. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Im here to thwart the lying liars who lie about lying.

    The Left Handed are the ones you should blame for my presence. Theyve created me, and I refuse to leave until sanity returns to the American government.

    Man Up and get a job. Its time to become part of the solution !!!
     
  9. Dan40

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    I should agree that you can stab my country in the back, 10 more times rather than 20 more times?

    You had $5 trillion of extra debt and 4 years to spend us into prosperity. That WAS compromise. YOU FAILED!!!! Now step aside and let us save the nation.
     
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    Ya...I accused every person in the Tea Party of being racist. Y'know, I'm really trying to be level headed here...and excuse me for posting a utube link that said examples of Tea Party Racism...

    Why do you find it so hard to be rational? Why all the confrontation? Do you not see how people might misconstrue your tone and comments as a simple desire to argue? Sort of like the stereotype give to T-People? Do you not see that THIS is exactly HOW you T-People get such hard knocks?

    If T-People are simply misunderstood, regular, mature and level headed people...when does that part come out?
     
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    kk8 New Member Past Donor

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    Admit that your video of "examples of tea party racism" is nothing of the sort...without actual proof of those being tea party people, and we can call it a day.

    I see the tea party getting hard knocks only from people who accuse them of baseless nonsense....like racism, and terrorism.

    I find it truly amazing the hypocrisy here by the left. They can't have it both ways....they can not claim that the tea party is useless, powerless, astro-turf...yet claim that they are so important as to bring down the entire congress to it's knees and "hold the country hostage" so which is it? Are they the most POWERFUL force ever seen? Or are they nothing but racist idiot unpatriotic terrorists? Which one?
     
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    Ummm I am assuming you have a link?? Because this isn't the Tea party's platform. Its about cutting the size and spending of government, period. But you just keep watching MSMBC ;)
     
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    cute...nonsensical but cute...

    Man up??? Deary...I have a job. In fact I have ALWAYS had a job. And a career.

    You Dear...are a common toll.
     
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    Awesome post! Rep coming.

    The left never wants to acknowledge that the TEA Party is simply about fiscal responsibility. I takes away their ability to lie and discredit and ridicule which is their only goals regarding the TEA Party because should they engage in an actual discussion about fiscal responsibility they would be toast.
     
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    Apparently the Canadian leftists are different from the American leftists as some of them have jobs off the government payroll and are not on the government welfare role.

    Please restore a bit of faith Buzz and tell us you do not have a government job.
     
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    Tea Partiers want smaller government, less spending....and liberals label them racists. Now, you are calling for them to compromise? LOL!! Good one!

    ALL this is about is that liberals cannot fight the Tea Party movement on their ideas, so they make up stuff at an attempt to discredit them. They cannot debate ideas because more spending and more government got us in this mess.

    KNOCK IT OFF ABOUT THE FAUX-RACISM, LIARS!! And debate the bottom line: Why do you think we should grow government and spend more!?! Explain it on a level of ideas and not made up accusations, and maybe we can acutally cooperate.
     
  17. Buzz62

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    Dan...this is pointless.
    Stab you in the back? What colour is you sky?

    This is EXACTLY why this Tea Party thing is doomed.
    And ya know...people are trying to give you T-People a chance.
    Hell I haven't called you a T-Bagger once today. lol

    Your 4 trillion has allot more to do with military spending than it does with Obama's stimulus. Now lets see...who was it that was all for the bombardment of 2 totally innocent counties? Counties that NEVER attacked you? Please remind me who that might have been...Obammy? Nooooo...he voted against this madness in the beginning.

    Your problem is, you dug your own hole, and now you want it fixed on your terms. Well I'm sorry but your country and several others have tried YOUR method of recovery and ya know what...IT DOESN'T WORK!!!

    You can continue to bash yer head against history all you like, but it does not change history. Your constant bellowing that governments don't create jobs, is just about the most ridiculous idea ANYBODY has ever heard! I got news for ya T-Person...GOVERNMENTS DO ABSOLUTELY CREATE JOBS!!! Regardless of what you wanna think. And I have a sneaking suspicion that you already know this but STILL rail against it...That, my conservative friend...is plain old dumb.

    But thanks for trying.
    You've been a great contestant and Margie has some nice PARTING gifts for you. Enjoy your decline and eventual exit...
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Is George Soros paying you to post lies or something?
     
  19. Buzz62

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    No tweedle-dee, I mean DG, I do not.
    I did, back in the 90's. But not for about 15 years now.
    So what? What have you got against people who work for the government?
    You DO realize that Bachmann works for the government...don't you?
    Ron Paul too...So What?

    And how many times do I have to remind you people...I am a Canadian Conservative. Its just that we tend to keep our heads level and our eyes on the goal...not the battle. Its works...you should try it...
     
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    Hey don't knock Canadians...they build nice buses for American presidents afterall.
     
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    OK I will...

    It all has to do with CASH FLOW. Cuts are needed...everyone admits government spending has gotten pointless and silly. But CASH FLOW is the problem your country has.

    You can't get bank loans
    Nobody wants to spend money
    Nobody wants to hire staff
    People are unemployed or underemployed
    as a result
    House prices continue to sink
    Costs of necessities continues to sky rocket
    and your deficit continues to grow

    oh...and allot of people are scared (*)(*)(*)(*)less...

    So...lets assume...just for a moment...that CASH FLOW is the real problem.
    An economy that's essentially STAGNANT. Sound about right?

    How do you go about increasing CASH FLOW?
    Well, cutting thousands of jobs ain't-a-gonna do it...right?
    No Mam, in order for cash to flow freely, people need to be comfortable, and for them to be comfortable...the need JOBS.

    OK, so how do we create jobs?
    Some people insist that private industry will somehow magically just create jobs out of the goodness of their corporatist hearts. But we all know that the basics of capitalism is...SUPPLY and DEMAND...don't we. And who in here really thinks corporations are gonna create jobs without the existence of DEMAND? Huh? I don't hear you...anybody?
    No...I didn't think so...

    Now this is the important part...paying attention?

    The only entity capable of creating JOBS...is the government.
    WHY? you ask? Simple...the government IS NOT A BUSINESS!
    It never has been.
    It was never meant to be.
    Its a GOVERNMENT.

    So lets say the government DOES create thousands of jobs.
    Well Mam, those thousands of people just got comfortable and begin spending money.
    They also pay income taxes...and added plus. Oh Boy...lol
    Anyway...corporations see this trend, and begin "beefing-up" their staff to accommodate the additional...what's that magical word? That's right...DEMAND!!!
    And THOSE people also pay income taxes...another additional bonus...Oh Boy!
    Thus a sort of "snowball" effect begins and a year later, you have much improved...

    ...CASH FLOW

    Wow...i even amaze myself sometimes...lol

    After about 2 years of consistent and focused investment in JOB CREATION, the government can begin to cut this program back...SLOWLY and CAREFULLY so the economy hardly notices.

    Et Voila...That's how its done.
    That's how its ALWAYS been done.
    Because it happens to work.
     
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    Ya and we don't cause global recessions through unrestricted Wall Street greed, either...so there... :mrgreen:
     
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    LOL...you're so cute...
     
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    Now, I understand. (And thank you for debating the point of the Tea Party movement). You think Cash Flow is the problem. It isn't. We have plenty of cash coming in for the role the government should play. PLENTY. We have a spending problem and entitlement problem. We have a problem that government "tries" to fill roles they have no business trying to fill (and don't do it well which makes me a skeptic that they really are trying.)

    Thanks for caring about our country....we'll take it from here since you don't really understand what we're all about. (Granted so do many of our US libs).
     
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    Why how magnanimous of you.
    and also ... cute.

    But you confuse the amount of cash, with real CASH FLOW.
    But that's ok...

    Well kids...my work day is done, and with it...my day of civility towards mindlessness.

    You are right about one thing however.
    It IS your country, and you may ruin it any way you please.
    Just don't come-a-sniffin' up here when it all goes for (*)(*)(*)(*).

    oh ya...and...

    ...Nice Hair...
     

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