Terror - do we need to rethink ourselves?

Under Islam, its the Grand Mufti's sacred duty to teach and educated all Muslims that non Muslims are infidels. Do you really see the Grand Mufti dismantling Muslim radicalization in Australia?

 

Well.....................no.........but I can also see that muslims would not accept any lectures from non-muslims,,,thats why I
put the thought out there....and therefore the answer is...nothing will change......

 

Was it the Grand Mufti who complained about having to make a statement every time there was a big islamic terrorist attack, something alone the lines of 'why do I have to reply, as if I'm/we are responsible for it'. He must be a few short of a dozen and kept as a figure head by some other behind the scenes key people...

... as he clearly does not understand that he is part of a national community (Australia) which is infested with a disease (radical islam) which lives within his domain of authority (muslim community) as Grand Mufti. If he cannot do his job; represent his community to Australia (address our fears in real terms and teach his community to stop playing the victim card), and manage his own muslim community (actively stop radicalization and help them integrate), then they should get someone else who can do that job.

It's not a hard job Grand Mufti. There are lots of other immigrant cultures in Australia who've done it.

Perhaps the problem is many muslims themselves do not integrate with the rest of Australia. All our other refugee's and immigrants have tried to integrate without losing their own cultural identity, but the muslim's in particular seem to want to hide in their own little groups and think they are separate. They don't seem to understand that it is that sort of behaviour which makes people act differently around them. Australia is multicultural, we are used to different cultures so their excuse of being victimized is a very thin one, only with backing in isolated incidents when people react to those rare terrorist events. Their community brings them up as separate and entrenches an us and them attitude which ends up dominating their entire worldview. You'll notice it whenever they try to speak about islamic terrorism, its always about irrelevant peripheral factors to try and make the muslim appear as the victim instead. Its why they always feel like they are victims 'because I'm a muslim' whenever they suffer any form of incidental bummer. Most everyone else just realizes stuff happens to all of us, its normal, no need to make a big deal about it, and move on.

 

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is the Caliphiate for ISIS. and after Paris Turnbulls Liberals are so sh!t scared of him they are instead going after a bloke called Abu Bakr, just to stir up Putin.

 

I am getting sick of all of those here that are helping the terrorists by spreading terror. I said before that ISIS is exactly the same as the KKK.

Actually my research is showing the KKK were worse. Now the KKK use a perverted version of Christianity to justify their crimes. Is the Pope responsible, maybe the Cardinals and Bishops, maybe all Christians are responsible.

[video=youtube;EWwUxVwH34Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwUxVwH34Y[/video]








Note the children watching and involved.

 

All Christians must be responsible. Christians were responsible for world war 2 it now seems.

 

Exactly....to the extent that some punter in Paris has stood in a square with a sign around him saying
"hug me if you trust me....Im a muslim....not a terrorist..."..........gimme a break.....

 

No answers on that one.....
Try this one then...
Why do people wanting to become terrorists have to convert to Islam first.....
Cant you be a terrorist if youre say an atheist....

 

As I stated nothing more than man hiding behind a debauched interpretation to justify evil they do. I must say, that while majority of Christians oppose the KKK's interpretation of the religion, many still behold the intentions.

I do wonder if severity is something that can be quantified here but generally speaking one must address the problem, not the perceived problem…

 

Their religious leaders need to be part of the solution, I think.
And one thing which strikes me in particular is the missing renewing process of the Islam in general. I know I might ignite another round of bullets here, but that is certainly something I miss.
Regards

 

This is the fundamental problem. Every Muslim believes in the teaching and doctrine of their "Bible" the (Qur'an) or they wouldn't be Muslims. Being Muslim is not a culture, its a religion. There is no such thing as a Muslim being a passive Muslim, they all believe non Muslims are infidels; regardless of what they say.

How many politicians have read the Qur'an? The Qur'an is certainly not a book of peace & love.

How do you ever expect Muslim community/religious leaders to be part of a solution, when they believe anyone who is a non Muslim is an infidel - that means YOU, and every Australian who is a non Muslim?

Its time to stop making excuses for a group of religious people who don't want to change. Islam has had the same opportunity, and the same amount of time to change and renew their religious doctrine as every other world religion, but the leaders of Islam have refused to change their religious doctrine and philosophies to benefit and be part of a modern progressive society.

Islam wants to convert everyone back into a philosophical Dark Age when their Qur'an was written, and they will not be content or happy until they achieve that objective.

 

Na,
wouldn't go that far.
I have a Muslim friend, who believes we share the same God, just differently dressed. And not all Muslim are bad and intolerant.
However, I think that their religion plays a stronger role as compared to what most Christians make out of their faith.

Our government has an awful lot on their hands and it is not done, to bomb the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of foreign countries.
It is important that we accept a tolerant and democratic society as the one and only way to coexists with one another.

Change starts from within, and the Islam in general needs to open up to the year 2015.
Even the Pope is using a milder language when it come to gays and lesbians, and shows that even he can change. I would hope for the same to happen with the leaders of the Islam.
Regards

 

Do me and yourself a favour the next time you are talking to your Muslim friend. Ask your Muslim friend; if he/she believes you both share the same GOD, then why is he/she a Muslim?

How do you suppose we coexist with Islam, who teaches all Muslims that non Muslims are infidels, and a religion that wants us all dead?

Seriously mate, read the bloody Qur'an for yourself, and see what Muslims are being taught, and what it is to be a Muslim. The Qur'an is the stuff of nightmares.

There are heaps of English versions around.

 

"I have a muslim friend....."...(thats one more than me).....that makes you an expert on Islam, does it......

 

I really hope Catter does himself a favour and reads the English version of the Qur'an. It makes the "Old Testament" read like Alice in Wonderland.

 

He could start here....

http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101

 

Hitler ran the same hate campaign to rid Germany of Jews!

 

The comparison is ridiculous...

 

Love your humour!

 

I have never said I am an expert on this subject. However in my experience not all Muslims are bad, the majority is good!!!!
Reg.

 

If all Muslims were bad, they would have sent us all to hell already and gone on to marry 72 of their finest virgins.

 

Does ISIS want to establish a caliphate?

 

No, they wish to establish leadership of the Muslim world while eradicating anybody who does not support their particular slant and those whom are not Muslim…

 

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/caliph
Just what is it to you?

 

Interesting you would like to debate the religious content of this group... Probably the most poinient thing is

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/caliph

The difference is that this group is acting in it's own interest NOT that of Islam.