Terror - do we need to rethink ourselves?

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  1. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is exactly what a caliphate aims to do.....lol
     
  2. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately for you I had credited the poster whom was being discussed with far more comprehension skills than you. BUT due to the fact your basic understanding of the comment is challenged I will point out that The difference of what I stated and what you claim is one tiny little word "unite".

    In other words, the caliphate will unite all Islamic lands and people and suppress the rest of the world. What is the difference??? That they create their own form of Islam and crush anybody who does not agree with them…

    I have watched you flounder here trying find some way of forgiving Muslims for the evils of ISIS without trying to appear as the racist you are actually showing to be. The problem is, you are trying to forgive Muslim beliefs while allowing other Muslims to justify their evil with similar religion. If you want to be taken seriously, forget the religious line. Had it been in another nation where Hindi is the main religion it would be Hindu terrorism, if Christian crusades. If you continue to allow the perpetrators to justify their actions, you will not be able to defeat them. You will purely become apologists and bleeding hearts until you begin to really hate them…

    Sorry you were caught out trying to understand a comment not directed to you, I will be sure to dumb down my comments for you to peruse next time, it is a shame you would stoop down to such levels while in discussion of serious issue…
     
  3. hkisdog

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    Australian nation security agency is almost not exist, it has less than 500 agents.
    Australia has no enough soldiers for a single battle, that is at least 100,000 soldiers.
     
  4. hkisdog

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    Not all mongols were bad, but they killed 25% of the people in the world.
    mongols killed 50% of chinese.
    in all places place ruled by mongols, Chinese were the 4th class slaves.

    About Muslims, they are not bad.
    America should not police Muslims countries.
    and Muslims should live in Muslims countries, whites should live in white countries.
    Separation is the best.
     
  5. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

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    No answers to this one either....maybe the questions are just too hard........
     
  6. mister magoo

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    Just a final note...
    On April 8, 2006, the Daily Times of Pakistan reported that at a rally held in Islamabad the militant organization Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan called for the formation of a Worldwide Caliphate, which was to begin in Pakistan.[4]

    Hizb ut-Tahrir, a pan-Islamic political organization, believes that all Muslims should unite in a worldwide caliphate[5][6] that will "challenge, and ultimately conquer, the West."[7] While extremists often commit acts of violence in pursuit of this goal, it is alleged to lack appeal among a wider Islamic audience.[8] Brigitte Gabriel argues that the goal of a worldwide caliphate is central to the enterprise of radical Islam.[9]

    History[edit]
    In his 2007 book, Islamic Imperialism: A History Efraim Karsh explains the concept's origin:[10]

    “ As a universal religion, Islam envisages a global political order in which all humankind will live under Muslim rule as either believers or subject communities. In order to achieve this goal it is incumbent on all free, male, adult Muslims to carry out an uncompromising struggle 'in the path of Allah,' or jihad. This in turn makes those parts of the world that have not yet been conquered by the House of Islam an abode of permanent conflict (Dar al-Harb, the house of War) which will only end with Islam's eventual triumph.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_caliphate

    Make of it what you will.....
     
  7. Bowerbird

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    They are less united than Christians. I mean, how often do you hear of Christians calling for world unity in Christianity - quite commonly. This is the equivalent of a Southern American Baptist Preacher claiming all Christendom should be under his guidance
     
  8. Adultmale

    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    Tell it to the thousands of dead men, women and children shot and blown to pieces by order of those Islamic equivalent Southern American Baptist preachers. How many Christian murder squads are presently roaming the world indiscriminately killing men, women and children?
     
  9. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Same question could be asked of any person joining an extremist group you'd think. Why do people have to join the KKK to become a terrorist? Why do people have to join a bikie gang or the mafia? Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree?
     
  10. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    A fundamental question that is.
    Why do some feel closer to an English speaking person than to a foreigner?
    Easy, they feel closer.
    And if the English speaking person does really bad things, some still feel closer.
    And at this point we/I start to differ I believe.....
    We should get back to the point, when the human being is seen as a whole.
    Maybe then other factors become more important than language or origin....
    Regards
     
  11. dairyair

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    What is their interest?
    If not a Muslim state.
     
  12. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

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    I dont think the KKK or bikie gangs enlist only Islamist converts...that was one of the questions...
    "Why do you have to convert to Islam to become an IS member".......
    And the answer is......you have to be a believer...you have to believe in Islam......
     
  13. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lost me magoo.

    Anyone that joins a gang has to believe in something and I thought that was the leader of the gang. These nutters are obviously using religion to manipulate and pretending that followers need to trust Allah, but really they're using them for their own agenda. People who feel vulnerable and worthless need to do something that brings them respect and purpose.
     
  14. mister magoo

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    I think youre putting it mildly....deliberately...
     
  15. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well how? What other word could I have used?
     
  16. mister magoo

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    "Pretending that followers need to trust Allah" are your words....[pretending] I think
    is the wrong word....."insisting" is the correct word.......
     
  17. garry17

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    To rule in their own name... As stated, the caliphate teachings has been to unite ALL of Islam under it, NOT just those who agree with them. Killing Muslims who do not join or support their claim is not uniting.
     
  18. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fair enough, I could go with that.
     
  19. mister magoo

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    Damn...I thought I had an argument going there.....
     
  20. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can't argue with something that makes sense.
     
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    Allah a prophet of Jesus, Both believers to God. Hearts passion for conversion to God is spoken in many languages.
     
  22. culldav

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    Question Islam, and do-gooders attack the questioner as a Nazi or racist. Its their standard M.O. :roll:

    I wish these people would educate themselves before shooting their mouths off, or at least have some commonsense.

    Unfortunately, the result of to much unskilled foreign immigration into Australia is being demonstrated by these uneducated posters.
     

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