Terror - explosion at Russia railway station

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  1. highlander

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    Man was made to stand on his feet, not crawl on his belly.

    Your choice, you made it!

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    And now, for the latest on the story -

    So now even the Russians are admitting that Islamic agents and their converts are becoming a problem.
     
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    Do you not notice, America says this america says that, it doesn't need to have one ounce of creditability.
    It usually hasn't anyway, they never seem to mention your torture chambers, not even your death squads, strange that hey!
    Ya neep!

    Highlander
     
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    Except it's the Russians who are saying it. The RUSSIANS.

    The story is about terrorists in Russia. They also didn't mention the Millions that died during the Great Leap Forward, or Idi Amin. Focus.

    [video=youtube;QTQfGd3G6dg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQfGd3G6dg[/video]
     
  5. highlander

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    Of course carnagie is a virtuous organisation.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Endowment_for_International_Peace
    Bollocks
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    the more this happens, the less sympathy I feel for any Muslim "freedom" fighters.
     
  7. highlander

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    Perhaps you might mention this to the warmongers in the senate and military, they could get there puppets, in Saudi to stop financing illegal wars and weapon supplies. You know, the ones given to Israel that's sold on to the likes of FSA, al Qaeda etc. perhaps not even China, for the possible repercussions..... http://www.infowars.com/chinese-president-orders-pla-to-prepare-for-war/

    Imagine arming those your trying to fight! That would be really stupid wouldn't it.
    http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/12/2...ale-of-advanced-military-technology-to-china/

    Aye right enough.

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    [video=youtube;T5qo-OEu7R4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5qo-OEu7R4[/video]
     
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    I don't think they care about your sympathy.

    Decades of Russian terror in Chechnya, and well no one seems to care. Several Russions get blown up, and all hell breaks loose!
     
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    [video=youtube;csr9TPGPoxs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=csr9TPGPoxs[/video]
     
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    This just reinforces my point. It's only so sad and bad when the Russians are the victims. So spare me the emotive scenes of tragedy.
     
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    Uhuh..... Chechens are innocent! It is not like they committed genocide and ethnically cleansed the non-Muslim population before the first shots were fired in 1994.

    Look up demographics of Chechnya before 1990s. Look up demographics of Chechnya now. In 1989 Christians made up 30-40% of Chechen population. In the early 1990s (before the war) they raped, murdered and chased away all the Christians from there.

    But I wouldn't expect a Wahhabi Supporter to know such details..........
     
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    You should get more of your friends involved to educate those unable to see or hear the devastation the scum behind the FSA etc and the genocide against mostly unarmed civilians.

    What would you expect from these slugs anyway! They have imposed these crimes against a multiple nations and got away with it.

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    What Russian brtuality against Chechens? Chechens had better living standards than Russians during the Soviet Union. They preferred funding for their republic's finances. They had equal access to education (literacy 99.9% for men and women) housing, and political posts.

    "Russian Oppression and Brutality in Chechnya"

    [video=youtube;PFNV7VOqUBQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=PFNV7VOqUBQ[/video]
     
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    Oooooh.......speak to the hand!
    Sorry have I shamed you infront of the lady, oooh that's right you did it yourself!
    Highlander
     
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    Chechen terrorism started long before the war in 1994. You would know that if you had done even the basic research.

    Chechnya was 40% Christian in 1989. By 1994 it fell to only a few %. These were the people who were born there, educated and lived there for generations. They were all raped, attacked, killed, and chased out of their homes by Chechen bandits. This happened long before the Russian Army entered their territory.

    Witness testimony about genocide of Christians in Chechnya.

    translation isnt accurete but anyone can get the idea what happened.


    " I left the city of Grozny in February 1993 due to the action of the constant threats by armed Chechens and non-payment of pensions and wages. Threw an apartment with the whole situation, two cars, a garage and left the cooperative with her ​​husband.
    In February 1993, the Chechens killed my neighbor on the street. She struck her head, ribs broken, raped. From the apartment next was also killed veteran Helena.
    In 1993, life became impossible there, killed around. Machines undermined directly with people. With the works of Russian steel fire for no reason.
    The apartment has killed a man born in 1905. Nine stab wounds inflicted, his daughter raped and killed immediately in the kitchen. "
    A. Kochedykova, lived in Grozny.

    "In May 1993, in my garage I was attacked by armed machine gun and two Chechen men and tried to seize my car, but could not because it was under repair. Shot over my head.
    In the autumn of 1993, a group of armed Chechens brutally killed my friend the Bulgarian, who refused to voluntarily give up his car "Volga".
    Similar cases were widespread. For this reason I left the Terrible. "
    B. Efankin, lived in Grozny

    "In November 1994, the Chechens neighbors threatened to kill using a gun, and then kicked out of the apartment and settled in it themselves."
    D. Gakuryanu, lived in Grozny

    "July 1, 1994 four teenage Chechen nationality broke my arm near the plant" Red Hammer "when I got home from work."
    P. Kuskov, lived in Grozny

    "6 and 7 December 1994, he was severely beaten for refusing to participate in the militia composed Ukrainian Dudayev fighters in with. Chechen-Aul. "
    E. Dapkulinets, lived in Grozny

    "In the summer of 1994 saw from the window of his apartment in Grozny as a garage belonging to a neighbor Mkrtchyan N., armed men approached the Chechen nationality, one of them shot in the leg Mkrtchyan N., and then took his car and drove away."
    E. Barsukov, lived in Grozny

    "May 6, 1993 in Grozny, missing my husband. Tarasov AF Guess he was taken forcibly Chechens in the mountains to work, because he welder. "
    G. Tarasov, lived in Grozny

    "December 31, 1994 my husband Pogotina V., and brother, A. Eremin, killed Chechen sniper at a time when they were cleaning the street corpses of Russian soldiers."
    E. Hobova, lived in Grozny

    "In September 1994 my sister's apartment, Vishnyakova ON broke Chechens beat her son and took away a 12-year-old daughter Lena. So she did not return. Since 1993, my son was repeatedly beaten and robbed the Chechens. "
    N. Trofimov, lived in Grozny

    "January 11, 1995, in the village square on Dudaev gunmen shot Russian soldiers."
    Ageev, lived in st. Peter and Paul in the Grozny district

    "In August 1992, our neighbor, RS Sarkisian and his wife, Sarkisian ZS, tortured and burned alive."
    M. Khrapova, lived in Gudermes

    "November 7, 1991 Three Chechens from rifles fired my cottage, I miraculously survived. In September 1992, armed Chechens demanded to vacate the apartment, threw a grenade. And I fear for his life and family, was forced to leave Chechnya with family. "
    V. Kobzarev, lived in Grozny region.

    "My daughter came home in the evening. Chechens dragged her into the car, beaten and stabbed. We were forced to leave Grozny. "
    T. Alexandrov, lived in Grozny

    "Neighbor in the stairwell, the KGB officer Vladimir Tolsteneva early morning pulled out of his apartment armed Chechens and a few days later it was found mutilated corpse. She personally did not see these events, but this one woman told me. OK (K. address is not specified, the event took place in Grozny in 1991). "
    T. Vdovchenko, lived in Grozny

    "In Grozny lived until November 1992 Dudayev indulged that against Russian openly began to be made a crime, and for that of the Chechens carried no punishment. Suddenly disappeared Grozny University Rector, and after a while his body accidentally found buried in the woods. With him did so because he did not want to release his post. "
    V. Nazarenko, lived in Grozny

    "In Grozny lived until the end of April 1994 Worked in the art. Kalinovskaja Naur district director of the music school. At the end of 1993 I came home from work of art. Kalinovskaja in Grozny. The bus was not there and I went to town on foot. Car pulled up to me "Lada", stepped out Chechen Kalashnikov and threatening to kill, shoved me into the car, drove to the field, there was raped and beaten. "
    O. Shepeta

    "Son of Zaire in June 1993, was taken hostage, and 3 weeks he was held, was released after payment of 1.5 million rubles."
    Ya Yunusov

    "In the spring of 1992 in Grozny on the street. Dyakova completely looted wine and vodka shop. In the apartment manager of this shop was thrown grenade, the explosion that killed her husband, and her leg was amputated. "
    Portnov

    "From left Grozny in March 1993 My son is 5 times robbed, shot him with all outerwear. On the road to college my son was severely beaten Chechens, fractured his head, threatened with a knife. I personally have beaten just because I'm Russian. Was killed by the dean of faculty of the Institute, where he studied my son. Before our departure killed my friend's son, Maxim. "
    I. Chekulin

    "In 1992 in Grozny at a nearby school was attacked. Children taken hostage and gang rape was committed and the entire class of people. In 1993 he stole my classmate M. summer of 1993 on the platform w / train station to my eyes Chechen man was shot. "
    V. Minkoeva

    "In Grozny, I worked as a nurse in a children's clinic number 1. We worked Totikova, came to her house and Chechen rebels shot the whole family. Whole life was in awe. Dudayev once with his fighters ran into the clinic, where we poprizhimali to the walls. So he went through the clinic and shouted that there was a Russian genocide, because our building formerly belonged to the KGB. I was not paid a salary seven months, and in April 1993 I left. "
    Komarov

    "In the summer of 1994 in the 13th hour, I was an eyewitness to the shooting on the square Khrushchev 2 Chechens, Russian 1st and 1st Korean. Executions were carried out 4 Guardsman Dudayev, who brought in foreign cars victim. Suffered a passing car citizen. In early 1994, the square one Chechen Khrushchev played grenade. Checa jumped, played, and a few people who were close by, were wounded. Weapon was in a lot of almost every resident of Grozny - Chechen. Neighboring Chechen drunk, roaring, threatened to kill. "
    Yu Pletnev

    "In 1992, unidentified persons armed with a pistol, seized car at my godmother living in st. Chervlennaya. In 1992 or 1993, two Chechens, armed with a pistol and a knife, tied up his wife and eldest daughter, took a TV, gas stove and fled. The attackers were wearing masks. In 1992, Art. Chervlennaya robbed my mother some men taking an icon and cross, causing injuries. Neighbor's brother, who lived in st. Chervlena his car VAZ-2121 left the village and gone. Car found in the mountains, and he was 3 months later found in the river. "
    A. Fedyushkin

    "At the end of August 1992 was taken granddaughter in a car, but was soon released. In Art. Assinovskaya orphanage armed Chechens raped all the girls and teachers. Yunus neighbor threatened to murder my son and demanded that he sold his house. In late 1991, the house of my cousin broke armed Chechens demanded money, threatened to kill the son killed. "
    Vladimir Doronin

    "August 25, 1992 around 12:00, in the suburban area in Grozny Chechen penetrated 4 and demanded that my wife is there to engage them in sexual activity. When his wife refused, one of them hit her in the face with brass knuckles, causing bodily injury. "
    S. Akinshin

    "August 25, 1992 approximately 12 hours. in the country in the area of ​​3rd city hospital of Grozny Chechen four aged 15-16 required to engage them in sexual activity. I was outraged. Then one of the Chechens hit me with brass knuckles. "
    R. Akinshina

    "At the entrance of my house persons of Chechen nationality shot one Armenian and one Russian. Russian was killed for sticking up for Armenian. "
    N. Lobenko.

    "There was a case when I pulled out the bag. In March and April 1994 in a boarding school, where she worked for my daughter Natasha, went drunk Chechen who beat his daughter and tried to rape her. Daughter managed to escape. Witnessed as plundered the neighboring house. At this time, the residents were in the shelter. "
    T. Zabrodina

    "My co-worker, female 22 years, my eyes shot Chechens outside of our work. I robbed two Chechens itself under threat of a knife away all the money. "
    O. Kal'chenko

    "They killed the son of 01/08/95, 04/01/94 previously Chechens killed his youngest son."
    V. Karagedin

    "Everyone was forced to take the citizenship of the Chechen Republic, if not accept, you will not get food stamps."
    E. Dziuba

    "They've gone January 13, 1995 because the Chechens demanded that Nogai protected them from Russian troops. Took cattle. Brother for refusing to go to the troops beat. "
    A. Abidzhalieva

    "In April 1993, the apartment was attacked by the Chechens, uniformed riot police. Robbed. "
    O. Borichevsky, lived in Grozny

    "December 2, 1993 at the stop" section 36 "Staropromyslovskiy district of Grozny 5 Chechens took me by the hand, was taken to a garage, beaten, raped, and then drove to the apartment where the rape."
    N. Kolesnikova, lived in Gudermes

    "Our neighbors - T. family (mother, father, son and daughter) were found at home with signs of violent death."
    E. Kurbanov, A. Kurbanov, L. Kurbanov, lived in Grozny

    "The neighbors (in Grozny) stole the girl and demanded a ransom."
    T. Fefelova, lived in Grozny
     
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    Wow,

    after reading most of the messages here I am learning a lot about the identity of the ones who caused the explosions. Can't say that they were terrorists until the event is fully clarified.

    I thought it was a revenge of Muslims because Russia sent troops to Syria, ones said to dismantle chemical weapons... others said to help the Syrian government against Al Qaeda...
     
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    Not interested. You asked for evidence of Russian brutality, and I gave it to you.

    But with regards to the genocide of Christian in Chechnya, I can't find anything on Google related to it. All I read about is Russian subjugation and tyranny.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-chechnya-20130419

    http://articles.latimes.com/2000/feb/28/news/mn-3511

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/feb/27/chechnya


    And Russia has been trying to control Chechnya for centuries, so what does 1994 have to do with it?
     
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    The United States, as well as other countries, should really be concerned. Russia obviously cannot protect our countries athletes.
     
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    Nice music, but, uh - what exactly are you trying to tell me?

    (I'm still chuckling over your "seventy-two transvestites in hell" line, BTW!)
     
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    Some people are certainly getting ethnically cleansed there alright, but it’s not who you might think it is. So this, essentially, is what the Russian “genocide” of Chechens boils down to: 715,306 Chechens & 269,130 Russians in 1989; 1,206,551 Chechens & 24,382 Russians in 2010. Russians almost entirely gone from there,
     
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    She's full of partisan-based hypberbole and, sadly, as with people like Abu who used to post on here, this hyperbole is trumped over understanding the wider geopolitical implications of limiting her (albeit pertinent) analysis to the denounciation of the Salafists. I kind of understand this though, given her country is being overrun with these kinds of throat-cutting and heart-eating maniacs.
     
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    The graphs do not show what you purport them as showing, that is, the Chechen's have ethnically cleansed Russian's. Nevertheless, it was interesting to see the demographic shifts that have happened over time.
     
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    Christians usually leave when they are targeted by terrorists, and that's what the intent is. If they commit a few atrocities towards the Christians, which they have no qualms about doing, they will get them to leave and acquire more territory. The Albanians did it in Kosovo and throughout the Middle East, but especially in Anatolia, which now calls itself Turkey.
     
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