Tesla recalls nearly all 2 million of its vehicles on US roads

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  1. Grey Matter

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    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/13/tech/tesla-recall-autopilot/index.html

    Wow. This is the sort of thing that would kill a small company like Tesla, innit?

    What a conundrum it seems to me to be that Tesla owners are stuck like chuck supporting f'wit Mollusk, financially at least.

    "Tesla is already the most valuable automaker in the world, by far, despite having a fraction of the sales of many established automakers such as Toyota, Volkswagen, General Motors, Ford and Stellantis."

    Interesting that the article conflates market cap with value. Anyone here own any of this stock? Seems closer to a popularity contest than some form of actual responsible method of building wealth, investing in stocks. But rental properties seem much closer to actual work, so there's that. Hmmm, I reckon I've digressed yet again in one of my posts....

    Recall? It's a download. A software patch.

    Am I the only one that has some curiosity how turning the self-driving mode off when it detects the driver isn't capable of taking control makes sense?
     
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    Depends on how that software works. My car, a 2022, has a collision detection system and will auto apply the brakes.
     
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    Tesla has been leading the self-driving autonomy revolution, and with that comes complications and risk.

    This is a software update.

    Not a big deal.
     
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    "Tesla is recalling nearly all 2 million of its cars on US roads to limit the use of its Autopilot feature following a two-year probe by US safety regulators of roughly 1,000 crashes in which the feature was engaged."

    so you take it in, and they cripple it, limit the Autopilot feature
     
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    And this is the guy who wants us to trust him to go to Mars?
    He could have been a contender.
    Now he’s just the head twit.
     
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    Ya, I'm taking the article calling a software update a 'recall' with many grains of salt. Seems like its not considering the situation reasonably.

    I thought it was common knowledge that the 'self driving' feature was essentially still in 'beta' and was a sort of 'use at your own risk' thing. Is that not the case?
     
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    An ancient Army buddy of mine that I found on FB lives in Santa Cruz. He posted awhile back that he noticed someone "driving" more-or-less asleep in the driver's seat doing 70+ mph on the freeway. One anecdotal case may not make such an occurrence representative of the frequency with which some muppets rely on the tech, but, well, it wouldn't be just the Tesla owner / driver being placed at risk.

    Labelling it a recall when it's just a wifi download patch, well, gives a bit of a new meaning to recall in my book anyway.
     
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    Elon has done more than most propelling the world forward toward a more green world. And fools hate him for simply having some right wing opinions.

    And it isn't a recall. That's the left wing media irrational spin.

    I for one praise Elons successes throughout his life. It's hilarious how many who have accomplished nothing hate him so lol.
     
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    This dude and his forays into Twitter is making Charlie Sheen's Tiger Blood meltdown look rationale.
    His bromance with Joe Rogan and Joe's Bro Alex Jones, well, proof that one can be rich and a complete tool, as if that were somehow ever in question.
     
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    Elon left-wing darling no more...
     
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    Showed his true colors.
     
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    As a reasonable freedom lover.

    The left cant have that.
     
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    Large recalls are normal for new tech. This is how new tech gets better.
     
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    Mine too. I have a Cadillac CT-6 with all the options. A couple years later they added “Super Cruise Control,” the self driving car, as an option. It only works on Interstate highways, but they are so clogged with northern state refugees here in Florida that you could never use it. The CT-6 is gone, sadly. I would have happily bought another one.

    We got stuck in a two and half hour backup yesterday on the way from Sarasota to Tampa. Image being stuck with a junky electric vehicle with no place to charge it? Biden, slimy John Kerry and rest of the climate change politicians have not had to worry about driving home in a backup for years. They don’t give a rat’s tail about what it’s like to be an average citizen.
     
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    FYI, electric vehicles are here to stay.
     
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    Those 'autopilots' have been causing accidents for years. I guess NTSB spooks have finally accomplished something, or is it just window dressing?
     
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    will it get better, or will they lose a feature they expected when they bought the car?
     
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    yeah, it was a pipe dream, there are too many imperfect roads, to many imperfect drivers, for AI at it's current state, it's just not ready
     
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    Fair enough and true, but more importantly is that driving cars on roads is essentially a 2 dimension exercise.

    At least with airplanes in space the AP works in 3 dimensions.
     
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    I guess it just goes to show that full self-driving isn't there yet. Will it ever be a reality, or is it just a pipe dream? Well, it looks like in the near future, good old-fashioned regular driving will be the way to drive electric cars. This puts a damper on the dreams of fully autonomous self-driving fleets of electric cars, at least for now.
     
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    The reason is the DoJ is targeting him for publicly being at odds with the ruling governments opinions.
    Tesla is non union and even though he pioneered EV's in the USA his name is never mentioned by the Biden Administration.
    Pure third world power play. (Enough that one might wonder if a bad actor hacked it.)
     
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    They are here to stay. The questions are who wants them and how many are sold. Maybe in five to ten years the bugs will worked out of them, and the Democrats will have found a way to construct enough charging stations.
     
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    There are already 1000s of charging stations. You make this stuff about electric vehicles having problems, but so do all other cars.
     
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    Would anyone on this board let a car do the driving and not you? I would never trust a car, software or anything else to determine how I drive. But that’s just me.
     
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    regardless if ICE or EV, I would prefer less digital control and more manual control - they are cheaper and easier to maintain
     
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