The Atheist 'Pay 50 Shekels for a Rape, Get A Rape' Myth

Thanks for confirming the bable condones Rape.

 

Can you do anything that God doesn't already know? You said NO. So your entire life is already known, you can NOT change anything in your life from the already known end result.


Everyone who has responded has come up with a better solution. Not repeating as many others have. If you want a better solution you like, see wanren.

 

Where does it condone it, the raper, pays a small fee, and then gets to marry the victim. You don't think that is harsh harsh punishment?
Who cares about the woman. They are 2nd class people by this religion.

 

"""""Atheists often distort the Old Testament """


Didn't need to, it's screwed up enough all on it's own.


""""as if a man could rape at will, pay a few bucks, and go on his way, thereby proving God is bad or something."""

According to the OP, "God" instructed his people to reward a rapist for raping a woman by being able to rape her forever.


Now, most decent people would consider that "bad".


I think the intentions of your thread backfired.

 

I've spend a good many hours in a mutual support group. For others like P7 telling others what do do, what is right and wrong is enough.

The basic concept P7 is putting forth is kind of weird, tho for todays world, that a woman who has experienced rape somehow needs to be supported like an incompetent for the rest of her life.



In the regressive society that the bible talks about, a woman-as-property was ruined if she wasnt a virgin, and nobody would have her.

That was where different rules were appropriate.

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It surely did, drawing attention as it did to the sick ugliness of the society of those days, made the worse by pretending they got it all from "god".

 

You're wrong, the fine was the equivalent of a year's income. Another atheist who didn't even read the OP.

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Not really, it certainly has exposed a pack of atheists as illogical, God-hating creatures.

 

Nonsense, it is irrelevant to our responsibility for our choices.

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How would the woman support herself then, nobody would marry her.

 

No, I mean financially support for the rest of a rape victims lives. According to the atheists here, that's a good plan, so how many of you hypocrites have done that?

None, its your plan, not mine. I will stack up my charitable giving with anyone on this forum.

 

Ya, ignore the believers in here who slammed your OP.

Show where anyone was illogical.

Show where anyone said they hated god.

Show where anyone else called humans creatures.


Show an atheist who thinks a woman should be punished for being raped as the OP does.

 

Since when did God craft his laws so that they would be acceptable to the society of the time. If you are going to lean on cultural relativism, then own it. Don't apply it selectively to the laws that you are embarrassed about.

Seriously, how many times in the OT does God explicitly state that he is creating these laws so that his people will be DISTINCT from the cultures around them. If God can give hundreds of laws that cover everything from proper pigeon sacrifice to how to properly ostracize women when they are menstruating, then why can't he just be slightly more moral about this one law. Monotheism wasn't part of the culture at the time, but he demanded that. Circumcision wasn't part of the culture at the time, but he demanded that. But demanding that women be treated as fellow human beings? Too far I guess.

How about one law against marital rape? How about just adding one line to the existing law that says, "You have to marry your rape victim and provide
for her, but you aren't allowed to rape her anymore"?

Make up your mind. One minute you say God fudges his laws because he is worried that people won't follow them if they are too demanding, and then you say something like this. You can't have it both ways. Either his instructions work for those who will follow him, or they only work for those that follow him AND grew up in the right culture. If the later, then the same excuse goes for the world today. If the former, then there is no excuse for not providing moral instruction regarding rape, even if the culture at the time wasn't ready for it.

 

I read the OP, it was ignorant. 1 yr salary to get a woman the raper could not get on his own and then have her to use for the rest of their lives. Hardly punishment. More like a reward.

Punishment for the victim, yes, she was now married to someone she wanted nothing to do with. With no option for divorce. Some punishment huh, for being the victim.


And you sit here and justify this as moral and just.

 

Who has said that? So far from what I have seen the people here have said it is sick and wrong to expect a woman to marry her rapist and it is even more messed up to devalue her based solely on whether or not she has a hymen or not.

I don't believe I ever suggested this, unless you can show me where I have I am going to call you out for the liar you are.

 

One. I married her because, despite what happened to her, I still see her as a human being. I don't hold her responsible for the crime committed against her, and I don't see her as being worth less because of what happened to her.

She also grew up in a culture that blamed her for what happened to her, so I guess in your book she should have just married that guy that abused her.

 

I sent $5000 US to the Philippines for typhoon relief.

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And how would that be other than that their culture was against it, and their made up god, oddly, was too.

Barbarians, disgusting.

 

Dodge again, duly noted.
You already claimed God is omniscient.
Can you do anything, every breath you take, every move you make, without God already knowing you are going to do it. It is a simple yes or no.

 

This is one of the dumbest arguments ever. So what IF God knows these things? Quit playing games and explain your pointless point already.

 

God could have simply said,
To the rape victim who is not engaged or married.
Treat the victim as if the crime didn't happen. For it was against her will and in God's mind the victim is still a virgin. And those who treat her differently will be punished with death like the perpetrator.

How does that fit your tune paulie?

 

Why do you butt in?
You are to juvenile to discuss anything with.
Become an adult if you want to join in adult conversations.

 

Just to expand on my previous comment, here's something from another thread that is relevant:

 

If only 2 people explaining christinaity could explain just 1 thing the same. Other than jesus is God.

 

Haven't you already gotten into enough trouble on this forum for calling people liars?

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You'd think if he's so juvenille you could answer his question.

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More silliness, you want people to be forced to do something? Should God force atheists to believe?

 

Let's see if he's lying.

Quote Paul's Epistle to Titus Chapter 3, Verse 2.

 

That's a pretty egregious misrepresentation of what I proposed. Why can't you participate in your own thread in an honest way?