The Atheist 'Pay 50 Shekels for a Rape, Get A Rape' Myth

Then that's their prerogative to ignore their god, like you said earlier. What the community wants is irrelevant. Morality is not a matter of preference. And a god that claims to be moral sure as hell wouldn't condemn a rape victim to a lifetime of more rape.

Edit: And please save the "utopian" crap for something that is applicable. My utopian world sees men and women as equal, and nobody rapes anyone. This rape deserves more rape business is hardly utopian. Asking a community to care for their perceived damaged individuals is hardly a utopian idea.

 

So your god's instructions in the form of this bible just don't work....his little people just choose to ignore whatever they don't like....just like today.....

 

The instructions work, for those who will follow Him. You want to answer my question?

 

Why shouldn't the rapist be responsible for his actions? What, is everyone supposed to pass the hat and support the victim for the next 70 years?

 

Ya, but they choose to ignore them on a regular basis .

Now, what question do you need answered?

And quit dodging mine to you:
How is a married or engaged woman different from any other woman that the punishment for raping her should be different?

 

I guess I have to spoon feed you:

"Atheists often distort the Old Testament as if a man could rape at will, pay a few bucks, and go on his way, thereby proving God is bad or something. Let's look at the whole Deut. 22 passage in context, not the cherry-picked part:

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[c] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Situation One: Engaged woman (same legally as being married in the ancient world) is raped, rapist executed, woman goes back to her fiancee to try and put her life back together.

Situation Two: Non-engaged woman is raped, rapist forced to pay father an amount equal to a year's wages and made to marry the woman, without the possibility of divorce. In that culture, a woman who had been raped (or who had pre-marital sex of any kind) would not be marriage material, and would be forced to starvation or prostitution. If the rapist was executed in this case she would not have been provided for. Is there supposed to be some kind of gross injustice there I'm missing?"

The difference between a raped engaged woman and one not engaged are spelled out. If you don't understand that I can't help you.

 

Why not? Isn't that better than letting her starve?

In 7th century Ireland (NOT CHRISTIAN) they made the criminals pay damages to their victims. The victim were NOT further victimized by incredibly stupid rules. Too bad your god couldn't think of that.....

 

yet they are more then happy to accept the rapist and his new wife?

 

The difference in PUNISHMENT is spelled out....that does NOT answer my question.

 

Your question has been answered a few times by other posters. Most would agree with those answers.

How would the passage deter rapists?
Getting to marry the rapee is a deterent? More like an incentive.

 

Talk about dense or lack of reading skills.
Have society take care of her. Have God provide for her. God is omnipotent so it is well within God's power to do so.
Why did God create mankind in such a apelike way? Are we not in his image?

 

Like the bile of demeaning a woman for the rest of her life for an act out of her control. That kind of bile?

 

Are you having trouble understanding what you read.
That is exactly what I said. He knows every decision we will make. In another thread one stated God knew mankind would sin before we were created.
What exactly can we change that God does NOT know about?
If he knows everything, about everyone, ever. Where is the free will?
Can we fool God? Can we do something that he does NOT know about?

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He has answered you at least 2X.
I know you can't be blind, you seem to be able to read the letters presented in front of you.

 

They were handled differently because in that culture, being engaged was the same as being married, contractually, so the husband to be would go ahead with the wedding if his fiance were raped, and be able to provide for her. That would not be the case with an unengaged woman, after a rape she would be considered unmarriagable, and would have faced starvation or prostitution.

 

Congrats. You beat out wanren by a mile.
And it seems as english is your 1st language.

 

Because the loving God set it up that way.

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Because the loving God set it up that way.

 

Another dick with make up and no disco.

 

You have to wonder a bit, the "responses" tend to be so skewed from the topic.

 

My original question which you dodged was :Your godsy really can't think of an alternative to being forced to marry a rapist?
Do you recommend that for women today?

 

Yes, because their culture is broken and treats women as inferior, they should be expected to support her. And who said the rapist shouldn't be responsible for his actions? He certainly should, but not at the expense of the victim. While I think it would still be morally wrong, enslaving the rapist to ensure the welfare of the victim would be better than making the two get married.

Again, this should be plainly obvious to a morally perfect being, that you don't punish the victim.

 

Do you believe that should apply today?

 

He set it up perfect in the Garden of Eden, rebellious man wanted to be like God and disobeyed, as we see atheists doing today.

 

Why would I want to be like someone who doesn't exist?

Especially if he's represented as such a cruel monster in the OP.......

AND I see christians disobeying their god on a daily basis.......and they're the ones who should be acting more godlike....

 

So christians obey. Got it.
Did God know mankind would sin before he create us?

 

yep, Man ate from the tree of knowledge, realized they were running around naked, put on clothes, god did not like this and kicked them out - lol

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