The Atheist 'Pay 50 Shekels for a Rape, Get A Rape' Myth

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  1. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    On the big issues such as not giving God the finger, yes.

    I don't know, am I supposed to know the answer to that? What does that have to do with Christ's offer of salvation to you?
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't say that at all.

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    And what "alternative" would you suggest dear?
     
  3. dairyair

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    Yes, you should know that answer.
    Let me ask it another way, is God omniscient?
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Who said Christians were perfect?

    What a silly question.

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    What does the Bible say dear?
     
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    http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/dictionary-of-bible-themes/1020-God-all-knowing
    020 God, all-knowing

    The omniscience of God is that attribute by which he knows all things past, present and future. What is hidden from human sight is still known by God. Scripture stresses the wisdom of God in all his actions, and often grounds this in his all-embracing knowledge

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience
    Omniscience /ɒmˈnɪʃəns/,[1] mainly in religion, is the capacity to know everything that there is to know. In particular, Hinduism and the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) believe that there is a divine being who is omniscient. An omniscient point-of-view, in writing, is to know everything that can be known about a character, including past history, thoughts, feelings, etc. In Latin, omnis means "all" and sciens means "knowing".

    This is for the christian (lol) who seems to have a different God than every other christian.
     
  6. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and that goes for things to come.

    Isaiah 46:9–10
    9 remember the former things of old;
    for I am God, and there is no other;
    I am God, and there is none like me,
    10 declaring the end from the beginning
    and from ancient times things not yet done,
    saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
    and I will accomplish all my purpose,’

    Do you have a point?
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Nah, you need to find a Bible in the original Hebrew text and see what it says. Some things get lost in translation.....especially when it comes to the Internets.
     
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    Of course. Everything we do, have done, will do is out of our control. Unless we can fool God.
    So this raping thing you did and the rules set in the bible was Gods rule. And many say it was a bad and cruel rule.

    There are many many many other reasons, but OT.

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    nah, I don't need to. Maybe you can ask your mom.
     
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    What other choices were there other than this rule?

    Yeah you should. That is if you are intellectually honest.....I won't count on it.
     
  10. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    Nonsense, God knowing what we will do doesn't lessen in any way our responsibiity for our actions. You might take a lesson from that.

    But they've never come up with a better one. The Bible is very honest about human depravity, hence the need for a Savior.
     
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    There is no better rule than that I would have to marry the man who raped me???

    Are you insane?
     
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    What other rule would you suggest?
     
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    It doesn't say that at all????

    Gee, DEAR , you forgot to read the OP !??

    """""""Atheists often distort the Old Testament as if a man could rape at will, pay a few bucks, and go on his way, thereby proving God is bad or something. Let's look at the whole Deut. 22 passage in context, not the cherry-picked part:

    25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

    28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[c] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.""


    That is where she gets raped for the rest of her life....
     
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    You obviously can't.

    Already answered this, please try and keep up.

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    They don't have one, doombug.
     
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    Why should we have one when even godsy didn't.....isn't he smarter than we are???



    Besides I did give alternatives....try to keep up.....
     
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    I think "some" people are just daydreaming or wishful thinking.......they like the idea of raping a woman so she's forced to marry them....
     
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    Actually, they did come up with the lame idea of everyone else supporting the raped woman for the next 60 years. Question for atheists who think that 's a good idea: How many rape victims have you signed up to support?
     
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    NO, YOU asked if we thought the people BACK THEN, the ones in your bible quote should support the victim for the next 70 years....at least try to keep up with your own posts.

    NO one suggested that today with intelligent(secular) laws that a rape victim needs to be supported...
     
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    I know it took you four posts to even acknowledge that I had proposed a better suggestion, but it beggars belief that you could actually need a fifth post to reiterate that the only reason they should have supported the rape victims is because their culture was so (*)(*)(*)(*)ed that they felt a woman could not be married to anyone but her attacker after being raped. And they thought women weren't good as anything other than wives and prostitutes. In our culture, where we (well, some of us) respect women, there are plenty of men happy to marry the women of their dreams, regardless of their history. And women are able to get any job they're qualified for. So, you know, we don't need to support them. We just punish the rapists and help the victims pick up the pieces.
     
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    Seriously, what kind of logic is the OP using?

    If God is so damn great and wonderful and loving, then why the hell wouldn't he have told the people not to behave so horribly towards a woman who suffered a rape??? It makes no sense!

    Why would he have such stupid rules that a woman is worthless without her virginity? It's sick, messed up (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    How about just punish the rapist with jail, and let the woman carry on with her own life?
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    4. My mother, my auntie, and two of my close friends. I am their support and shoulder to cry on when they want to talk about what happened to them or when they just want to cry.

    How many rape victims have YOU signed up to support?
     
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    How does it help the raped woman if the man was a jobless layabout?
     
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    Oh don't you know? God said she's worthless without her hymen, so obviously she must be punished for being forcibly raped. Psychotic.
     
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    Logic? In religion? Doesn't happen, just emotion, delusion, and myth...and plenty of misogyny.
     

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