The Case for Ron DeSantis.

I dislike Biden and Trump, but find DeSantis’s war against woke as hypocritical, which makes it difficult for me to get behind him. Can you define woke in a way that does not also apply to the right? Definition, not examples. If I were to define woke by how I see the right use it would be something like: To be woke is to believe fallacies as truths and be ignorant of the error. If that is the definition of woke then we are all woke to an unknowable degree. When I talk to or watch videos of conservatives against wokeism I find that the right cannot even agree as to what it is.

2nd issue I have with DeSantis is his war with Disney which looks too much like going after them for having a different opinion. I understand technically he is not censoring them but if his crusade against them is in response to an unpopular opinion in conservative circles I would still see it as an abuse of power and disqualifying for the highest office in the land in my eyes.

One last nit to pick, National debt. In my nearly 60 years I have heard many republicans talk about fiscal conservatism and paying down debt while watching debt rise under republican rule. Perhaps he will be the one to walk the talk, but what will he cut? Unlikely conservative pet projects and more likely social services that the disabled like me rely upon of which are already in short supply.

I hope he wins the nomination over Trump, but I prefer a conservative leader less hypocritical and less partisan than him.

 

There will always be and always have been people like you.

So you are concerned with war. Well try fighting one when young men are confused about their gender!

 

Desantos may very well become the next president campaigning on the silly anti “woke”’ BS

he may win the battle but cannot won the war

CHANGE will always happens and accept change or be miserable

the “woke “‘crowd was created by the likes of desantos and other right wing lunatics

the right is obsessed with trans people .they seem to think it is an epidemic or something. When in fact I bet very few people here even know one person that have transitioned to the opposite sex. Personally, I know not a single person that is trans .we all know Bruce Jenner and a couple athletes that transitioned and play sports. But guess what?? The biological women did not quit and chose to attempt to compete against a man that claims to be a woman for some strange reason.

First it was gay men ,then gay marriage , now it is drag queens and trans people the right is obsessed with ..I say outlaw the movies mrs Doubtfire and Tootsie.and also flip Wilson and Milton Berle and Martin Lawrence and any other man that has pretended to be a woman

Would this make the desantos crowd happy??

Desantos has no other platform than anti woke

Desantos will truly prove go woke and go broke

if the anti woke don’t work,, Desantos is history

 

Seems many have forgotten that Ron was on his way out of Congress (because he couldn't get re-elected) with a known RINO record and only got elected governor because of Trump's endorsement. He then mimicked everything Trump did to gain popularity. What has he led on without Trump? Picking a fight with Mickey Mouse, bragging about gas stoves and sinking any Presidential aspiration by signing Florida's new abortion law.

He's likable enough but when pushed, he comes across as too angry and has no convincing charm what-so-ever. His jaw is made of glass, mark it. If by some slimmest of slim chances he was ever President after the next election, just be ready for solid RINO and more foreign interventions. The deep state will have their hands so far up his ass you'll be able to count their fingers.

 

Say

says the guy flying a confederate flag

 

Apparently you have no idea what the confederate flag looks like.

 

Yours is missing a few stars .till then

claim “Union Jack”

 

I'm sorry to hear that you are disabled and I'm grateful that you are getting the services you need. I've been in the caregiver role for folks that benefit tremendously from these essential services.

I think that getting the debt under control is going to require the States imposing a Balanced Budget Amendment via Article V. Woke's pretty elastic. I use it to describe the pushing of the idea that we are a flawed immoral nation that systematically abuses minority groups, and for the ESG things that some are attempting to force on us, and while everyone seems to understand when I use the term that way, I don't think that the concept is precise enough to quibble over.

I'm fine with the folks of Florida dressing Disney down, I think they were way out of line and when they indicated that they get the FL legislature to withdraw the law, I expected FL to buckle like other states have when big corporations yank their chains. Italian Fascism was a system of control through corporations, so I was deeply bothered by our elected legislatures backing down before corporate demands and am pleased that FL didn't. But, I am concerned that as the initial events recede, that it will look like FL is picking and pushing a fight. I did not like DeSantis' intemperate remarks of threats to build a prison next to Disneyland or to put a road through the park. That's the kind of thing that Trump does that I think turns off Suburban Moms, who I believe will decide the election. I'm hoping that was just a misstep by him and that we won't see more that.

I appreciate your post. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and concerns.

 

I appreciate the kind words and your perspective. Thanks.

 

Like these.

Matthew 10:34-37
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Luke 14:26
26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

 

It doesn't require being pro-DeSantis to wish people would stop referring to him as "fascist". That term used to mean something specific and it would be useful to have it back. When everyone is "fascist", no one is.

 

Actually, yeah you can. See, what you're doing here is confusing popular with good and that's a big issue. There's a lot of people and things that are and have been popular, doesn't mean they're good.

 

The one thing I ain't confusing is how popular DeSantis is as the governor of the State of Florida. Floridians like him and like his policies -- that is a proven fact. And you know why he's popular.

 

Is there something wrong with that?

 

Floridians have a very skewered sense of good and bad and morality as a whole, so that's not saying a whole lot. Again, popular doesn't mean good.

 

"Woke" Americans are awakening to the rabid authoritarian's losing a slap fight with a mouse.

His lickspittles become moist over the specter of the swamplord braying his statist tyranny at doctors, educators, librarians, private enterprises, Americans with wombs, etc., etc., etc.

That may sell in Russia or Belarus. Not in America.

 

Lets say Ron will win GOP nomination.
can anyone tell me what trump will do next ?

 

It would be to Trump's credit if he could stop the childish name calling. He continually calls DeSantis "Desanctimonious." Maybe some found that amusing the first time, but as he continues to do it, in only blows back on him.

Does Trump really think this will get him more votes? It's like he's fourth grader running around a schoolyard taunting a kid who is not in the “in crowd.” It is demeaning behavior for a man who is looking to regain the highest office this country can provide. Trump needs to grow up, but he’s too old to do that.

Trump is also running very negative ads in Florida against DeSantis. Does he not realize that he is antagonizing the very voters he will need in the fall of 2024?

Trump keeps using the line, "DeSantis is just not ready." After his loss in 2020, Trump is proving that his continuing anger is showing that he does not have the temperament to be qualified to be president again. Trump's time has come and gone.

 

Have you seen what he has accomplished in Florida? I guess that would be a good model for the rest of the country. People are flocking there. Don't tell me you are so blind. Maybe so if the woke media is all you entertain. Don't worry, I'm sure you will always be able to wear drag in Kalifornia and New Woke!

 

I would point out the ad Trump runs about Desantis proposing a National Sales tax some time ago is VERY dishonest. Many of us considered that years ago and a National flat tax was also looked at. These taxes were in lieu of all other taxes not in addition to as the Trump add portrays. A National sales tax of 23% would actually be a progressive tax as the wealthy who purchase more would pay more. Close all loopholes. Everyone would have some skin in the game. Trump attacks this in his ad without really addressing the facts. It is a cowardly attack that could actually be addressed if he ever consented to debate. At least we know he is concerned by his closest competitor!

 

Allowing book bans to be a thing even more, spending time trying to fight Disney, passing laws that let doctors openly discriminate against any patient based on their own beliefs.

If that's the model you think our nation should have, then you're just as bad as the Taliban, and quite frankly people who vote for him are just ****ed up in the head.

 

Not forcing doctors to violate their own beliefs and convictions is "just as bad as the Taliban"? I think you have things a little mixed up.

The choice between Trump and DeSantis Is the choice between a Champion and a General. Trump is a great champion, but, he's one guy and he's not changing the corrupt system that needs to be changed. The Corrupt DC system, once they expelled Trump, continued on.

I think that our current challenge fits the skill set of a General like DeSantis who will bring in the team that is needed. Trump really has no team, champions seldom do.

THE QUESTION IS WHY THEY FEEL STYMIED BY HAVING TO MAKE AN ADULT EVENT JUST FOR ADULTS: Florida Furries Stymied by Child Protection Law, Make Convention 18+.



Too much of the Left just wants our money and our children.

 

Talk about f'd up in the head....mutilating young kids who are just confused and pornography in the schools, WOW!!

 

With all of that said, I do not think Ron DeSantis is in any way a good person and it shows and I have no issue looking down on people who think otherwise.

 

No, I know what I said and I'm very sure I got it right. See, the law DeSantis passed lets doctors choose to allow or reject patients based on their moral, ethical or religious beliefs, which sounds a lot closer to the Taliban or any fundamentalist than you or other people want to admit. What makes this worse is that people lie all the time, so theoretically doctors can refuse to see a gay or lesbian patient just because they don't feel like it.