The consistency between modern science and Quran - Part I and II

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    * Jafar al-Sadiq, 8th century
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    Ahmed H. Zewail

    The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 1999 was awarded to Ahmed Zewail "for his studies of the transition states of chemical reactions using femtosecond spectroscopy".
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    Thanks for posting those lists :)

    This is what the verses say:

    He has set free the two seas meeting together. There is a barrier between them. They do not transgress. (Quran, 55:19-20)

    He is the one who has set free the two kinds of water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition. (Quran, 25:53)

    So... What's your point?

    This was the verses used in the second link I posted recently. Just further proof you didn't even bother reading what is said in them :p but should I be surprised?
     
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    You have said in nearly every post that I don't read the verses. I do read them. But I dismiss them. I have already explained the reasons why multiple times.

    There is nothing in the verse stating the water must remain undisturbed, the water mixes. Face reality.

    I don't know why you are hung up over the water, it is *irrelevant* to the applicability to vague murmurings of a desert nomad.
     
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    If religious people could stop trying to argue their respective scriptures as if they relate to the natural world, there'd be more people of the respective religions and less bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Of course, it would also create a paradox.
     
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    What do you consider forbidding partition means?

    Anyway, I find it's a waste of time trying to argue with you. You have your opinion. You aren't going to change you mind no matter what I say. Just like I have my opinion and won't change my mind no matter what you say.

    Let's just agree to disagree.
     
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    I found a few videos and an interesting read here that shows the Quran referencing evolution and other topics. The following quote does seem like a pretty explicit reference of evolution...

    Kind of eerie 0.O
     
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    That is fine, if you choose to connect invisible dots that is your decision.
     
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    Indeed :)

    Salam
     
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    Here's another one.

    "And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind…" (57:25)

    Iron came from exploding stars millions of years ago. It is used for many things today.
     
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    The Qur'an and Modern Science by Dr. Maurice Bucaille - http://www.sultan.org/articles/QScience.html

    Highly recommend reading this article. I won't (actually, I can't) post the entire thing, but I'll include some of the verses mentioned.

    *From CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE

    “God then rose turning towards the heaven when it was smoke” Qur’an, 41:11

    “Do the disbelievers not see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then I split them apart?” Qur’an, 21:30

    “God is the one who created the heavens, the earth and what is between them...” Qur’an, 25:59

    *From ASTRONOMY

    "Did you see how Allah created seven heavens, one above the other, and made in them the moon a light and the sun a lamp?" Qur’an, 78:12-13

    “(God is) the one who created the night, the day, the sun and the moon. Each one is traveling in an orbit with its own motion.” Qur’an,21:33

    "The sun runs its coarse to a settled place That is the decree of the Almighty, the All Knowing.”
    Qur’an, 36:38

    “I built the heaven with power and it is I, who am expanding it.” Qur’an,51:47
     
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    The Qur'an and Modern Science by Dr. Maurice Bucaille - http://www.sultan.org/articles/QScience.html

    *From GEOLOGY

    “Have you not seen that Allah sent rain down from the sky and caused it to penetrate the ground and come forth as springs, then He caused crops of different colors to grow...” Qur’an, 39:21

    “Have We not made the earth an expanse and the mountains stakes?” Qur’an, 78:6-7

    *From BIOLOGY

    “Do the unbelievers not realize that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then I clove them asunder and I made every living thing out of water. Will they still not believe?” Qur’an, 21:30

    “(God is the One who) sent down rain from the sky and with it brought forth a variety of plants in pairs.” Qur’an, 20:53

    “Verily, in cattle there is a lesson for yon. I give you drink from their insides, coming from a conjunction between the digested contents ( of the intestines ) and the blood, milk pure and pleasant for those who drink it.” Qur’an, 16:66
     
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    The Qur'an and Modern Science by Dr. Maurice Bucaille - http://www.sultan.org/articles/QScience.html

    *From EMBRYOLOGY

    “Verily, I created humankind from a small quantity of mingled fluids.” Qur’an, 76:2

    “Then He made [ man’s ] offspring from the essence of a despised fluid.” Qur’an, 32:8

    “God fashioned humans from a clinging entity.” Qur’an, 96:2

    “I fashioned the clinging entity into a chewed lump of flesh and I fashioned the chewed flesh into bones and I clothed the bones with intact flesh.” Qur’an, 23:14

    “I fashioned (humans) a clinging entity, then into a lump of flesh in proportion and out of proportion.” Qur’an, 22:5.

    You can read the article for an even more indepth look at the Quran's accuracy regarding modern science.

    This thread was and still is mostly to prove the Quran was given to the Prophet Muhammad PBUH from Allah SWT, for only God could know such things at the time the Quran was given to Muhammad PBUH.

    Enjoy :)

    Salam
     
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    The basic chemistry of your body is the fact that they mix.
    The bare fact that you are a life is prove enough.
    It all works on Diffusion.
    Ignoring this make one realy stupid:

    Diffusion describes the spread of particles through random motion from regions of higher concentration to regions of lower concentration.
    In molecular diffusion, the moving entities are small molecules which are self propelled by thermal energy and do not require a concentration gradient to spread out through random motion. They move at random because they frequently collide. Diffusion is this thermal motion of all (liquid and gas) molecules at temperatures above absolute zero. Diffusion rate is a function of only temperature, and is not affected by concentration. Brownian motion is observed in molecules that are so large that they are not driven by their own thermal energy but by collisions with solvent particles.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion
     
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