The Delta variant will cause 'very dense outbreaks' in these five states, expert says

Thanks 557. My friend was diagnosed very very early in large part due to his awareness of his own genetic risk for cancer in general and pancreatic cancer in particular. He had a mild symptom and managed somehow to get a scan. I'm not sure what type of scan it was but I think it was CAT or MRI rather than a PET. The result of the original radiologist's review was negative. However, my friend has a slightly younger brother that is also a radiologist and he was able to have the scan reviewed by him for a second opinion. His brother then identified one, two or three very small anomalies in the scan. These were biopsied and determined to be malignant. Subsequently he went through about four months of chemo, the Whipple procedure, and another three or four months of post op chemo.

Throughout this entire ordeal he was a stellar example of a guy following the advice that Jerome Groopman offered in his book, "How Doctor's Think". The key piece of advice being to have folks learn to exert a modicum of personal interest in their own health care in recognition of the fact that physicians are often placed practically in a position of duress in their efforts to diagnose and treat illness.

He has two daughters and he shared with me that one of his greatest concerns through all of this was the possibility that he would die before he got to know how his kids would grow into becoming adults and who and what type of personality and character they would grow into. Not having any kids myself I was a little confused by this and asked him, don't you already know who they are now? Ha! He just laughed at me and my ignorance and explained that they were just kids. Very interesting point of view that was to me. His opinion was that for the most part kids are all the same and I cannot disagree with this, for the most part.

Awesome dude, been through some serious medical treatments and just completed a June vacation to hit the lake over in Wisconsin. Love the guy like a brother. Mortal time management, priorities, goals and aspirations. I regret not having had some kids from time to time. Being a good parent is one of the most fundamental contributions anyone makes to civilization, imo.

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We have a really crappy norm here in our culture of stashing our elderly into nursing homes. My Mom and Dad are a long way from where I live. Mom died in a nursing home in April 2020. She came down with pneumonia and died in two or three days. I think it was likely due to Covid. I last saw her in December of 2019 and that was a difficult trip for me and my wife to make from Houston to Louisville and back again. Dad is 84 and still doing fairly well on his own. Ah, I have some Gen X issues with Mom and Dad, but I still think that overall we as a society ought to have a tighter core family approach to taking care of our parents and grandparents when they need us the most. Sadly I haven't the slightest vestigial spark of a plan for how to take care of Dad when he needs me the most.

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I'm a bit hesitant to post this part of my opinion because I value your point of view and opinion but I also have to honestly convey to you that I do think you have somewhat deflected the subject of Trump's potential influence on the decline of value in empirical evidence with regard not only to Covid but also with regard to multiple other topics of substantial interest to the ability of our country to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

Correct me if I misunderstand your post, but it seems to me that you walked back a bit your theory that the advancement of monoclonal antibody tech was hindered due to political pressure exerted by opposition to Trump. That empirical scientifically proven successful prophylactic Covid treatments were suppressed because of Trump's association with the owners of the biotech firm that developed them. I recall no mention of this technology by Trump or Fauci or any other public official or corporate media: and yet somehow this lack of exposure you attribute to a bias against Trump?

And that in responding to my statements regarding how Trump may have in fact contributed to your theory, you defectively assert that all of our Presidents suck. Nope. I reckon I do have to call bs on that part of your post. Are you pleased with Trump's continuing influence on the GOP and the RNC? Was Trump a big proponent of empirical fact based discussion? Dumb as a bag of rocks, and Biden as well? Complete bs this analysis is. Biden is proving himself to be an outstanding President and Trump has proven himself to be a failure, thus far, as the man to bring an end to the somewhat Constitutionally based government as we have known it to be during our lifetime.

I predicted back in 2017 that Trump's end game was a military coup and he actually attempted it, fortunately ineffectually as so many of his efforts have come to fruition.

You Sir simply cannot post logically consistent political opinions when you complain about a lack of empirical scientific based dissemination of information from a government led by one of the possibly most disinclined President to stick to facts in US history. And then as a follow up response, you basically posted that all of our Presidents have sucked.

Trump did accomplish some good things. His authorization to the DoD to take out Soleimani was the right decision, imo. And I am not so sure that had HRC been President she would have been as effective as Trump has been in authorizing military roe's that seemingly almost overnight led to the end of dash/isis. Bizarre stuff. I do not understand how the so called cradle of civilization is so apparently jacked up, and I do not understand how the US has failed to help rebuild the destruction it rained down on Iraq. Tons of resources were poured into Germany and Japan post WWII. Whoa, sorry, I'm digressing here quite a bit, hahaha....

I don't think you're being fully cognizant of your own opinions on this one 557. All as bad as each other is a punt even though there is substantial truth to it, imo. Trump was definitely outside of the box, but he failed to deliver anything of significance other than signing off on long gone Paul Ryan's revised tax code.

 

Wow. I’m glad he got an early diagnosis. That’s pretty rare but gives him a fighting chance. Looks like a really good chance! They misdiagnosed my dad for a couple months and by the time they figured it out he was already terminal. Your point about active involvement in your own healthcare is brilliant and if followed with Covid would have likely cut US death toll at least in half.

I am not a parent either but will be eternally grateful that my parents took the job seriously.
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Yes, we don’t take care of our own like many other cultures. Our affluence as a society allows us to give others the responsibility of care for elders. We lose a lot in the bargain.

I last saw my mom in Dec. 2019, just days before she died. She also lived in another state. I am thankful it all transpired before Covid because I am not the type of person who would have let her die in isolation without my being able to see her one last time. She was in a facility that would have attempted to deny that visit.
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Don’t be hesitant. I’m game for whatever is on your mind. I still converse with those who have called me a liar, a purveyor of pseudoscience, and worse, to the point of their posts being removed by mods (against my wishes LOL) I have no problem with criticism from you.

I’ll never state categorically that Trump’s bad rap is responsible for this. There’s no way to “prove” it. But I can show you instances where Trump made correct statements on science backed by empirical evidence and those comments were not only mocked, but censured, labeled as misinformation, and subsequently hidden by certain platforms. The point is everything now is political and no treatment or vaccine will ever be judged on it’s merits alone. That time is long past. So I can confidently say there is evidence this product is Trump stigmatized but I have no interest in proving it etc. because it doesn’t matter. The much more important problem is with science now just being the ***ch of whatever political party or opinion is popular or suits their fancy. If the lies and disinformation had stopped with the Biden inauguration I’d be right there with you on Trump’s toxicity. But the fact the lies continue unabated shows Trump was not the problem—just a symptom of the problem.

Well the facts are that lies on Covid under the Biden administration have not stopped. They are just lies acceptable to a different demographic. I seldom watch any of these clowns, but I did watch Biden when he announced his plans for firearm regulation. His major points were all blatant lies. I don’t understand why that’s OK, but people get all spun up about Trump lying. And as far as presidents who have ended constitutional basis of government Trump can’t hold a candle to presidents like W. Wilson or Dubya. Don’t get me wrong, Trump is a jackass. But he is no worse than others we’ve had.

Of course it was ineffectual. He never had military support for any such thing. Military coups require a military that wants to participate. Furthermore, I’m on record on PF saying I’ll be the first to help forcibly put down any such thing. But I’m not driving out to D.C. for a bunch of nuts spun up by what amounts to an online Borat. The Jan. 6 bread and circuses was amusing and definitely a wake up call to how we’ve normalized riotous behavior lately, but it was never a threat to government or transfer of power. If it had been, most of the rioters would be dead, not just one.

The political weaponization of institutions like the DOJ and IRS were not Trump’s original idea. That was normalized by the previous administration. I’m not sure why people are surprised Trump followed suit. Why wouldn’t he? Someone who wants power would be a fool to not assume powers secured by predecessors. Again, I’m not excusing Trump’s behavior, I’m pointing out he only did what others before have done—assumed powers secured by predecessors and pushed a little beyond where the predecessor did.

But they do all suck. The Biden administration is lying about Covid still. If Biden or Fauci had done a press conference reversing the disinformation that was put out under Trump you would have a case. Most of it they doubled down on and they have reversed none. I just can’t criticize one administration and not the other when both behaviors are the same.

Sure, all Presidents do some good things. I really liked Obama’s attempt to reform civil asset seizure. I thought Trump’s attempt on prison reform was admirable. But overall, both men trashed the constitution.

An HRC administration during Covid would have almost certainly attempted to federally mandate the incorrect recommendations our “experts” came up with. This would have not only resulted in less actual mitigation but would have probably led to civil unrest making Jan. 6 look like a kindergarten spat.

Well, what’s worse? An administration (Trump) that lies but is fact checked and shown to be a liar by media etc., or an administration (Biden) that lies with impunity and nobody even knows is lying because nobody is fact checking or holding the administration accountable for it’s disinformation? I’m willing to call them equals. That’s generous because the liar never held to account is actually more dangerous in the long run.

Also you have to remember very little of what most people believe about Presidents is true. I can lay out irrefutable evidence President Clinton singlehandedly set up the deregulation metrics of the Great Recession. But that isn’t what people believe even though their belief is diametrically opposed to the empirical evidence. Trump will take the heat for American Covid deaths even though people like Fauci are actually the ones who are responsible for the majority of preventable deaths from the pandemic. Obama gets the blame for the negatives of the ACA but he just happened to be president. It’s not his fault. The ACA in reality had the same broad bipartisan support that the Clinton deregulation did.

Perhaps you are right and Trump lies more than anyone. Of course we have never run the numbers on anyone else so there is no data to make comparisons. You will never be made aware of the vast majority of lies told by Biden. But at the end of the day it doesn’t matter. The best thing that has ever happened to me was the coached realization I finally came to that energy spent on disentangling oneself from needing things from government is of supreme value. Trying to determine which politician is the lesser of evils isn’t particularly time well spent because you have no control over it anyway. And the two sides are intentionally setting you up to focus on sides rather than the fact they are sides of the same coin.

 

yep, seems to be Trump supporters and minority males that are the most anti-vax

agree, it's not racism that they choose not to get the vax, any more than it's racism that white Trump supporters won't get the vax

 

Thanks for taking the time to read and respond to my post.

Condolences on the loss of your Mom and Dad.

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You've offered several interesting sidebars in this post. Let me attempt to address just one for the moment to understand what you understand how Clinton's actions as President directly led to the Great Recession, by which I assume you are referring to the 2007-2009 economic collapse of the insurance and banking markets that also caused a crash in the equity markets. Clinton did this on his own by executive order, or did he sign bills passed in the 103 Congress that led to this? Because otherwise, it was Gingrich and Hastert and Dole and Lott that passed any legislation during Clinton's term in office.

 

Thanks for the condolences. I’m enjoying your posts.
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Yes, as I said the legislation was passed with bipartisan support. But the actual legislation was written on a template that came out of a Clinton White House working group. Here is more information I’ve provided in the past.

 

Whether the vaccine is safer or COVID depends on how dangerous COVID is to you, which varies according to age, comorbidities and a number of other factors. These vaccines are no risk free, and while if you are vaccinated, you are fully exposed to vaccine risk, if you are unvaccinated, you not even get COVID. So, the respective risks also have to be adjusted for the likelihood that you'll even get COVID.

Only 2.3% of the population has even caught COVID.

"WELL, UNLIKE FAUCI, RAND PAUL HAS PRACTICED MEDICINE IN THE CURRENT MILLENNIUM": Rand Paul Blows Up Another Fauci Claim, This Time on the Delta Variant.

"Also, he’s not a lying crapweasel."

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/458865/

I love it when Rand Paul lays an asskicking on this evil vile little lying clown.

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8/100ths of a percent? So, 0.0008, or zero until you get to the fourth decimal point.

 

Some data strongly suggests that the Delta variant is a direct result of the injections.

New Report Stuns the World: The Vast Majority of Those Now Dying with Covid are People who Were VACCINATED Against It (humansarefree.com)

 

There ARE two America’s.

The test group and the control group. That the left are more eager to be unquestioningly in the test group is their choice.

That some here equate being a test subject with being a patriot is simply and solidly stupid.

 

RP party bosses are always part of the problem.

“The system is functioning precisely how they want it to function. Gridlock, complex laws, highly technical bills, and regulations that target specific groups have a commercial purpose for the Permanent Political Class.” EXTORTION, "How Politicians Extract Your money, Buy Votes, And Line Their Own Pockets, Peter Schweizer, HMO, NY, NY, 2013, p. 8.

 

Sums it up....

 

I believe my state is going to be one too. I live in utah and I could see a breakout here no doubt. Lots of anti vaccers here.

 

What I want to know is why we are not going after China like we should for this disease.

 

Because all the facts show we worked in cahoots with China on the Gain Of Function experiments. US tax dollars were diverted for such experiments by Anthony Fauci.

 

Self referencing FALLACY!

Why should we trust any drug manufacturer (dealer?) with a VESTED interest in MAKING a PROFIT from what they are pushing?

 

Apples and Oranges comparison FAILURE!

INFECTIONS are NOT the same thing as FATALATIES!

The Covid virus CAUSES other severe health problems besides just killing people.

 

hard to as Trump handled it the same way, both played it down

 

No, everything I’ve posted is results of clinical trials just like we base our knowledge of the Covid vaccines on. Are you saying we should not trust the clinical trials done by Phizer and Modetna?

 

A point NO ONE is making.

 

Biden can’t do anything cause of trump. I forgot trump was that powerful

 

Our corrupt bipartisan ruling political class has been in business with the CCP, the PLA and the PLAN since Nixon embraced China in an effort to save his butt. They will not endanger a relationship with China that enriches them personally.

 

Biden could play it down too, but he is not as stupid as Trump

 

"Expert says"...

That should concern everybody. The experts have been wrong so often. The experts want children wearing masks outdoors.

 

Pretty sure Trump never called an AR-15 a AR-14. Biden wants to regulate what he doesn’t even understand. Not sure you can call Biden any smarter

 

So now we're patriots? That seems a bit of a stretch.

 

Trump misspoke all the time, Trump called 9-11.... 7-11