The despicable lie of CLIMATE JUSTICE!!!

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    I often talk about the cancerous ideology of the left and why it needs to be destroyed. I cannot think of a more despicable concept than marrying the climate lie with race. As if weather knows about pigmentation. It is a lie.

    As I say more than anybody who posts here CC or GW or whatever they call it is a white western obsession. The goal is to blame capitalism, blame industry and especially to blame our country for the ruination of the earth. Then add the caveat that not only are white people ruining the earth but that black and brown people are somehow more negatively effected.

    But these negative effects of climate change(Lies) have not produced more suffering, more hunger and reduced populations. It has been the opposite.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Just a little heads up.

    I have done my homework on this and will completely obliterate any argument that claims people are suffering and starving due to collapsing ecosystems caused by CC. It is all a lie.
     
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    perhaps the emphasis on the disastrous effects of global warming seem too long term for we old people. my city will probably be the frost to join atlantis in sea level rise, but i am old enough to think i'll probably be dead first or at least so old that drowning is as good a way to die as any.

    wverything that we are trying to do to alleviate the effects of climate change are based on common sense and american values. things that smart people do anyway. recycling, conservation, efficiency, innovation. what is so communist about that? .

    additionally, these are good investments. perhaps not a payoff next quarter but musk is not going to mars tomorrow either.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Climate change has nothing to do with real environmentalism. It has nothing to do with making air or water cleaner. It has nothing to do with conservation and recycling.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, all of this is horse pucky?

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-change-refugees/#

    https://www.internal-displacement.org/global-report/grid2021/

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-disasters-in-six-months-report-idUSKBN2B90Z8

    Thanks, good to know.
     
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    perhaps think about it the other way. real environmentalism is good no matter if climate change is occurring or not. cleaner air and water are their own rewards.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Tell me what countries have become less habitable since 1990. Go ahead and name them.

    Your Reuters link is talking about 10 million people in a world of over 7 billion. And we have always had flooding, earthquakes and storms. Why do they assume they were all caused by CC?
     
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    So it is good? Calling something you exhale when you breath a pollutant is not environmentalism.

    The population of the earth and the average standard of living for people on this earth has improved significantly. It is all a lie.
     
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    Was the Ethiopian famine almost 40 years ago in the 1980s caused by climate change?

    What about the Arabian famine in 639?

    What about the 1530 Ethiopian famine? Caused by climate change?

    How about the Yellow river flood in China in 1938?

    Hurricane Camille in 1969?


    Sorry but you cannot just take something negative and automatically call it climate change.
     
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    Some help for sleep monster and others who I asked to name countries that have become uninhabitable in the last 30 years.

    Indonesia which gained in population by almost 90 million?

    How about the Philippines which grew from 60 million to 110 million people?

    Zimbabwe which went from 10 million to 16 million?

    How does the world's population grow 47% in 30 years when the ecosystems of these black and brown countries are being destroyed?

    Oh it is all a lie.
     
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    7+ billion people and increasing may not be "improved significantly."

    i have not noted much of an improved standard of living, life span, infant mortality in recent years. certainly not in many of the countries where i sailed.
     
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    And now is arguing otherwise. What we are arguing is that there is zero evidence that giving the bureaucracy control of almost every aspect of our lives will not make the environment better in fact it's almost guaranteed to make it worse. The worst pollution in the world is in the former Soviet bloc
     
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    You first.

    Tell me which parts you are disputing, and why. You said you’ve researched what you refer to as the climate change lie, so start refuting the specific information in the 3 links I provided. There are countries and regions mentioned, so you could start by linking valid, verifiable research that refutes those articles.
     
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    That's because to us it is, why do you think we're getting rid of it.
     
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    Guess what, climate DOES CHANGE.
     
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    Stunting. What is it what does it mean? It is one of the indicators the UN uses to measure malnutrition.

    In 1990 32% of the world's children were under sized or under weight. Today it is 5-6%.
    Taking some people who have been displaced from a flood and calling it climate change is a lie. Floods have happened all throughout human history.

    Which parts I'm disputing? The population of the non white world increased over 50% from 1990-2020. It increased faster than whites. So how can that be if their ecosystems have collapsed. There is a higher standard of living in the world today than in 1990. Much less malnutrition. Where is all this evidence of CC hurting people?

    Again it is all a lie.
     
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    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-change-refugees/

    The above link has nothing to do with reality or anything that has actually happened. It is all theory about what might happen, if decades from now. FYI it was written in 2007!


    So have billions of people been displaced? Has starvation increased? These bogus bullcrap predictions have been going on for 60 years! That is not science! They are never right.

    Again let me repeat. The population of the earth that is 90% non white has increased 47% in the last 30 years. The standard of living has INCREASED over the last 30 years and malnutrition and starvation has DECREASED.

    The notion that black and brown people are suffering from climate change is a despicable lie.
     
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    This is the second link that is supposed to prove something.

    https://www.internal-displacement.org/global-report/grid2021/

    40 million people displaced out of a world of over 7 billion. And they were displaced by war, oppressive regimes and natural disasters which have not one damn thing to do with climate change.

    In the graphic from that link it lists 46,000 displaced for "extreme temperatures".

    I'll give you that 46,000. 46,000 in a world of 7.75B people.
     
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    I agree but the problem is when idiots make things worse in the name of climate change. They want us to make and buy a bunch of cars with lithium batteries, overload the electric grid, and burn more carbon at the power plant. They shut down pipelines that reduce carbon emissions and increase efficiency.
     
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    Some basic world facts to consider.

    1. Fossil fuels. From 1990-2020 oil production increased 30%. NG production doubled.

    https://yearbook.enerdata.net/crude-oil/world-production-statistics.html

    2. Population. The world's population increased 47% from 1990-2020.

    https://www.infoplease.com/world/population/total-population-world-decade-1950-2050

    3. Electricity. In 1990 71% of the world's population had access to electricity. Today 87% have access to electricity.

    https://ourworldindata.org/energy-access#:~:text=At a global level, the,increased to 87% in 2016.

    4. Hunger. Signs and symptoms of malnutrition have declined by 80% since 1990.

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure...1-Africa-3-3-3-Asia-B-B-B-Latin_fig1_51488678
     
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    Guess what, climate change has happened throughout history.
     
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    I guess I'll have to put most of the members here on ignore.

    I'm sure as hell not going to waste my time reading this insane crackpot nonsense. It is endless!
     
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    Insane? So you are pissed that the gloom and doom predicted has not happened?

    You push this lie that ecosystems are breaking down and people are dying.

    The lie that CC is hurting and killing people.

    Yet in reality populations have increased and the quality of life in the developing world has improved. Hunger is in decline and more people have access to electricity, transportation and communications.

    All your predictions are bullcrap!
     
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    So blame anything bad on this? A guy has hemorrhoids so blame CC? Every flood, every fire, every famine CC!

    Thanks for proving this is all BS.
     
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