The despicable lie of CLIMATE JUSTICE!!!

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    The people living near the sea have not seen a change in quality of life another total lie. Steaming horse crap!

    Singapore's GDP has increased almost 10 fold since 1990. I already talked about the Philippines and the whole country is islands.

    There is another side to this. The liars want to change the status of immigrants who come here for economic reasons. People who come from poor countries to the USA for purely economic reasons are now called climate change refugees. A totally made up concept.

    The people of Mexico have a bigger obesity problem than a mal nutrition problem. The average person in Mexico consumes over 3000 calories a day but the liars want you to think they are starving because you drive a car.
     
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    So let's take that to mean u agree that WE are better off.

    Now we've got the question of what criterion ur using to judge the quality of our surroundings. My take is that if WE are better off then our surroundings are either better because they support the improvements in our well-being, or they don't matter.

    Your take?
     
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    https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/p...1990-a-look-at-past-predictions-of-the-future

    Want to laugh? This is what so called science was telling us in 1967 what 1990 and 2000 would look like. Think of the tv show the Jetsons.

    Some racism there also. Those darn democrats and their racism!:frown:

     
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    No, they're not allowed to industrialize because the monsters of wealth that champion, fund, and politicize the fraud of global warming (which you endorse and support) prevent any meaningful modernization.

    You are in league with the World Economic Forum, the Central Bankers, the mobsters of the UN, the brutal oligarchs of eastern Europe and Russia, the Communist Chinese, the warlords and Marxist dictators of Africa that are in league with the monied elite listed above - and they all brutalize the people and rape the natural resources out of Africa for their own benefit.

    This has been going on for centuries in one form or another.

    The slave trade, Cecil Rhodes, Debeers, the fraud and exploitation of the mining and oil industries, the political gambits of western Elites that have lifted Marxist butchers like Robert Mugabe and Nelson Mandela into power, the Marxist take over of Rhodesia and the accompanying genocide that was facilitated by the U.N., on and on...

    Like I said, you're on the wrong side of history and science - not because you would be predisposed to exploiting other people, but because you are too lazy and intellectually dishonest to do the proper research to get to the truth.

    It's much easier to simply believe in everything the Elites tell you to believe in through the MSM they control.

    Wake up. You're being manipulated and lied to.
     
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    I’d call mexico uninhabitable. But that’s got nothing to do with the landscape.
     
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    ... a "look at some of the climate alarmist’s most fundamental failed predictions, and why they failed."

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/26/failed-climate-predictions/

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    There are many, many more egregious failed predictions - but, even when confronted with facts, the indoctrinated left will never admit they're wrong.

    They're simply too intellectually dishonest to give up the lies.

    They'd rather destroy our economy, and wink at the resulting collapse of our society, than admit they were wrong.
     
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    There are simply no data to support the claim of more wildfires, more precipitation, more drought, more hurricanes, stronger hurricanes, etc. None.
     
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    Just because some leftwing activists and leftwing NGO's that are dependent on spreading fear and disinformation for a continued money steam from government...

    Just because "they say so", doesn't make it so.

    There was no scientific evidence cited to prove that AGW induced CC is responsible for anything cited in the articles.

    They just say, "CC caused" this, led to that...

    That isn't cience, proof of anything - it's propaganda.

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    You want some actual science that says your narrative is full of "horse pucky"??

    Here ya go...

     
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    World life expectancy is not relevant to third world countries. I know it is hard to see your strawman burst into flames after all your hard research but reality is what it is.
     
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    Are Third World countries not included in measures of world life expectancy?
     
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    Third world countries are run by political criminals that are only in power because they do the bidding of the same wealthy global Elites who are spoon feeding you the AGW/CC lie.

    And since the AGW/CC lie is essential to keeping those countries from industrializing, thus keeping the criminals in power, and the people in poverty - it can certainly be argued that you are doing your part keeping the poor in shackles by supporting the AGW/CC lie.

    How is it that someone as sharp and astute as you, or all leftists for that matter, never makes that connection??
     
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    It's destroying the global economy and the Left is about to pay a yuge price.

    THE LEFT IS ABOUT TO PAY FOR THEIR ENERGY INSANITY:

    "By promoting so-called Environmental, Social and Governance, or ESG, investment standards to choke off fossil fuel investments, by canceling pipelines, and by limiting federal oil and gas leasing, the left has reduced American energy production and left America vulnerable to the rest of the world. All this has come with very little emissions benefit to boot. It has just enabled Russia, Saudi Arabia and others to displace American fossil fuel production with their own foreign fossil fuel production. The result? From Biden’s inauguration to the onset of the war in Ukraine — before the much-discussed “Putin price spike,” in other words — American gas prices went up nearly 50%. Those prices are up another 15% on top of that since the war began."

    "There have been huge technological strides in solar, wind and other renewable power sources, but primarily due to their intermittent nature and a still-huge gap in energy storage (battery) technology, those forms of energy are not yet ready to make up for lost fossil fuel production without massive extra cost."

    "Giving away a huge economic and national security advantage is political malpractice. Slowing American energy production while begging the Saudis to increase their own fossil fuel production, as Biden is doing this week, is a botch so foreseeable it should be disqualifying for future leadership. Energy policy under the Biden administration has been insane. With prices booming, everyone now knows it. Those who got us in this mess should prepare to pay a massive political price."

    As well they should. And there's nothing just about it. The wealthy and connected live lives of conspicuous excess while the rest of us are to thank them for our austerity.

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    Gas Prices Could Be Spiking Again by Election Day.

    " U.S. crude oil exports increased to nearly 3 million barrels per day in 2019 — up 45% from 2018. We were well on our way to oil independence — until Joe Biden became president."
     
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    2 problems with your argument.

    1. You have done nothing to counter what I said. Where is your data? Show me this data on third world life expectancy because lifer expectancy in western countries has not changed that much in 30 years.

    2. Your evil ideology is race based. You people argue that weather effects black and brown people more including black and brown people in rich countries.
     
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    Life expectancy in some developing countries 1990-2020.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/NGA/nigeria/life-expectancy
    https://countryeconomy.com/demography/life-expectancy/philippines
    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/HND/honduras/life-expectancy
    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ETH/ethiopia/life-expectancy
    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/life-expectancy

    Nigeria-from 45.92 to 54.81 an increase of 19.3%
    Philippines-from 69.60 to 75.62 an increase of 8.6%
    Honduras-from 66.38 to 75.34 an increase of 13.5%
    Ethiopia-from 46.92 to 66.71 an increase of 42%

    USA-from 75.19 to 78.93 an increase of 5%

    Pwned!
     
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    You know what is really disgusting about this? They are pissed. They are angry. They are distraught. They want to argue.

    Provided with proof that the world is better off that black and brown and yella people are better off pisses them off! Shouldn't they be celebrating?

    I should write a book.

    POC over the last 30 years are living longer, have more to eat and are significantly healthier. It is all a lie.
     
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    As Yuri Bezmenov said 40 years ago... once they are indoctrinated, no amount of logic, facts, or proof will move them.

    They will never admit they're wrong; they will never acknowledge that they are actually harming society, harming people...

    In hindsight they look back at previously indoctrinated masses and condemn them, but never make the connection to the fact they themselves blindly follow authority; believe "experts" without question; and, obediently attack anyone who does not fall in line.

    It's beyond sad.
     
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    The better question is, why do you assume they're not? Why do you think it's impossible for humans to affect the climate?
     
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    And why do you think the government is telling you the truth??
     
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    That is a dumb question. To start I never said it was impossible I just do not think it is happening. When you read my posts you will notice I live in the real world not some theoretical concept of what might happen.

    The real world is nothing at all like the lies they have been puking out for the last 50 years.
     
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    Please share your sources. And calling me a liar is against the rules, besides being very rude.
     
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    I know this is an appeal to authority, but when I'm not an expert I lean on experts: Climate scientists believe the climate is changing due to human actions. It's sometimes hard to judge where the denial of climate change is coming from. I mean, your signature line quote is an example of somebody exaggerating. The right calls it "truthful hyperbole" when they do it. But are we affecting the climate? Of course we are.
     
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    https://www.c2es.org/content/wildfires-and-climate-change/

    https://science2017.globalchange.gov/chapter/8/

    https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-13/

    Also, to follow the money (it's more expensive to ignore the issue than it would be to aggressively address it):

    https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/billions/

    I can find more, but how about you show me yours.
     
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    Do I? No but I do trust science and experts.
     
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    I just don't think that's a very good measure. Many things besides climate contribute to life expectancy. And it may require a tipping point (e.g. causing a crop failure) before it affects life expectancy in a 3rd world country. If it's a measure of climate change at all, it would be a lagging indicator.
     

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