The difference between Conservatives and Liberals

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  1. NetworkCitizen

    NetworkCitizen New Member

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    Most definitely. He's President No-More-Unconstitutional-Measures

    His motto is "No, We Can't"

    :)
     
  2. Warspite

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    What is unconstitutional according to him is not necessarily the consensus or the fact of the matter.
     
  3. Spinoza

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    Palin has more credibility than our current president. She's actually governed before, and successfully.
     
  4. Warspite

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    I'd hardly call governing the backwater of the United States executive experience.

    In any case, Palin is a non-issue. She'll never get elected.
     
  5. NetworkCitizen

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    What's so liberal about controlling everything? Since Bush was the worst type of rights-trampling conservative, what has Obama changed from the Bush presidency to grant us more freedom?

    Zilch.
     
  6. Spinoza

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    I don't care for her to get elected, just that she has governed a people longer than Obama ever did before becoming president. She also did it fighting the media tide, while Obama rides with the tide and still struggles to get a majority of people to approve of his job.
     
  7. Warspite

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    And who exactly was responsible for the media tide? Palin shot herself in the foot with here asinine and witless comments and answers to interview questions, the media did very little to inflate her incompetence.

    I would hazard a guess that Hillary's campaign against Obama was tougher than the Republicans did against him or the Democrats against the Republicans.
     
  8. Spinoza

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    Explain, I didn't understand what you said
     
  9. Warspite

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    I can't explain it any more simply than that. You'll just have to re-read it.
     
  10. Libhater

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    You're not the only one who couldn't make sense out that piece of garble/gobblygook. May I suggest a grammar refresher course for her/him/*******s.
     
  11. Angrytaxpayer

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    Man this whole quote is so full of crap I don't know where to begin!

    Conservatives tax the middle class?!?! LMFAO!! Come to NY where our former blind liberal governor decided to sneak in MTA payroll in our property taxes!
     
  12. James Cessna

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    Talk about taxing the middile class!

    Check this out!

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    This is what the liberal Democrats often do when they foolishly tax and spend and drive the middle class out of the central business districts of the urban cities.. America's Beautiful, Horrible Decline courtesy of the foolish, tax and spend and very misguided liberal Democrats!

    http://www.time.com/time/photogaller...850982,00.html

    Lee Plaza Hotel
    Once one of the most luxurious residential hotels in Detroit, Lee Plaza closed in the 1990s.
     
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    ^^Your link is dead.
     
  14. Joe Six-pack

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    Ron Paul is the "Government shouldn't oppress the people" President. By "no" you mean "no tyranny."
     
  15. Warspite

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    Tyranny is a highly subjective term..many people consider taxation to be tyranny. They'd be wrong though.
     
  16. Warspite

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    So despite the fact that Democrats favour a top heavy progressive tax structure which relieves the middle class of the tax burden, and the GOP continually gives tax breaks to the rich, Democrats are still anti-middle class.

    Ignorance abounds.
     
  17. Spinoza

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    No seriously. I want an intelligent debate with you but that doesn't make sense. Say it differently please.
     
  18. Joe Six-pack

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    I consider Government in every personal decision in my life to be tyranny.
     
  19. Warspite

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    Unless the government is telling you which way to go number 1 I don't think you have a case there.
     
  20. Spinoza

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    Everything Government does is a restriction or a handout. In effect it's tyranny on those that aren't getting the handouts and its a nanny state to those that do.
     
  21. Warspite

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    Hardly - assurances of security and preservation of rights are also functions of government. If it wasn't for the government we'd still have segregation in the South, perhaps even slavery.
     
  22. Spinoza

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    The Civil War was a war of a government against a part of its people. That is oppression.
     
  23. Warspite

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    And yet fought for two just causes - the preservation of the Union, and eventually the freedom of the slaves.

    Regardless, secession is illegal.
     
  24. Joe Six-pack

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    Considering your professed love for government rule over your personal, social and financial life, I don't care what you "think." There is a trend to replace common sense and free will with government bureaucracy that will make those choices for you. If you think people are too stupid and selfish to run their own lives, then people are also too stupid and selfish to run other people's lives. Government is people, so the "people are dumb" argument always makes socialists look stupid.
     
  25. Warspite

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    Excuse me, I favour government controls in terms of finances insofar as it comes to taxation which is a matter of social debt anyway. Property aside, I am incredibly liberal when it comes to social and personal matters - all that is required is regulation to make sure that the risks are minimized in any given endeavour, and that there is aquedate treatment available if things go sour.
     

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