The Gay Agenda

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Wolverine, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. martin_777

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    You used here a word "fear". Where it came from? What I said has no any kind of hint of fear. You've brought that up and trying to base a ground on it. So, don't try to base your theory on your own delusions.


    It doesn't say anything to me. To protect yourself just because you are gay and put yourself above other because of that fact is absolutely wrong.


    Stop trolling. I actually just proved in my 1 post on this thread above. People will be fearful to criticize gays, blacks or women, because these are "protected" classes. Managers will be fearful to fire people which belong to "protected class".


    Trolling again. Where did I ever say that USA and other Western countries are already mostly white? I said that gays are mostly white.

    You already proved your failure by your inadequate responses and trolling.

    Due to this reason, I am stopping responding you and other posts on this thread, because this forum full of trolls.
    I said my opinion on the situation and I don't care, if you find it wrong. What is important to me that I find it right :)
     
  2. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Well, for emperors who could disregard the law.

     
  3. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    "Claim"???????

    Revealing that you feel a need to hide the agenda.
     
  4. Val1101

    Val1101 New Member Past Donor

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    It's interesting to see a relatively small Special Interest Group taking total control over the other 98 percent of the population on their issue. They are working very hard to push their special interests over the well being of society. They are working very hard to demand the normalization of their particular depravity. The 98 percent of the population that has wimped out and allowed themselves to be brainwashed are the pathetic group here. The 98 percent are being herded like sheep.

    Most of countries in the world have anti-depravity laws in place and always will. Depravity special interest groups would like for everyone to believe that it's Christianity or Conservatives in their countries who are the only people they must subdue and they are making great strides in doing so. In reality it is every known religion and most other countries that completely reject the normalization of depravity.

    Genetics research has completely blown up the "Born Gay" lie but the mainstream media has refused to report this fact. Homosexuality is 100% learned behavior. The "Gay Agenda" is simply to increase their numbers by spreading their behavior to others, especially young people.
     
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    There's a sale on tin foil in aisle 6. You might want to go get it before it's all gone.
     
  6. Johnny-C

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    LOL and Amen!! :)
     
  7. migueldarican

    migueldarican New Member

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    You say it has no hint of fear. But that is simply my diagnosis as I see it. You can correctly note that I am not a psychologist, therefore my diagnosis may not hold validity based on that. It's simply an opinion. But as warning to you, it's an easy opinion to make. And it's a point that has already been made by people with more knowledge on this subject that you or me. Fear is basically what a lot of racism and other discrimination is based on. You can read history and see what the struggles were with women wanting more equal power in the workplace. Same with all minorities, and now gays. Bigots are afraid of what giving them more freedom will do to society. It's the fear of change.

    It is absolutely wrong. But it's still a straw man to the main point. You can't deny equal rights just because a few people find ways to exploit the system.

    First, you're going to have to look up the term for "trolling". I am here in discussion directly with points made in your post. Secondly, you didn't prove a single thing. Proof requires references and sources. You have none. Only your opinion. This is not proof.

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and point out that it seems were dealing with a language gap here. No, I never said that you said that "USA and other Western countries are already mostly white." I'M SAYING IT.

    Look it's simple math in which we can easily come to such a conclusion. It's a fact, USA and other Western countries are already mostly white. Logic would conclude that that is the reason why most gays in the USA and other Western countries are mostly white. And nothing you've said proves otherwise.

    You might as well leave this forum altogether if you find anyone who disagrees with you as "trolls". People come here to debate and disagree with other opinions that differ with themselves. I'm not trying to tell you to leave at all. Opposing opinion is welcome at this forum. But I suggest if you can't handle that, maybe there's some private discussion forum you can go to, where everyone simply believes the same thing you do, and there are no "trolls".
     
  8. migueldarican

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    There's no hiding of anything. You basically just re-quoted what Perriquine already posted. We know about the source of that list. The issue is not that it's being hidden. The issue is whether or not "After the Ball" really has as much influence on gay rights and proves the existence of the Gay-Borg-Agenda that conservatives think it does. Or is it more likely that the fight for gay rights would be just as successful regardless of some literature that most gays don't even know exist.
     
  9. Val1101

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    There will be no respect for depravity now or ever. I don't respect it or those who engage in it and never will. I fully support the anti-depravity laws in Russia, India, China, and most of the civilized world. As for those living inside the bubble (USA/West/etc) who advocate the spreading of depravity by teaching it to children, enjoy the last vestiges of the born gay lie because the truth about that is spreading. Have fun!
     
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    There will be no respect for drinking eggnog now or ever. I don't respect it or those who engage in it and never will. I fully support the anti-eggnog laws in Russia, India, China, and most of the civilized world. As for those living inside the bubble (USA/West/etc) who advocate the spreading of eggnog by feeding it to children, enjoy the last vestiges of the eggnog lie because the truth about that is spreading. Have fun!
     
  11. Fugazi

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    Christian religion parades are forcing me to accept religion.
    Sitting in a park smooching is forcing gays to accept heterosexuality.
    Acting a prick and not to be fired for it is forcing us to accept your bigotry.

    Get out of my face with this (*)(*)(*)(*) and keep it in the closet where it belongs
     
  12. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    and his dick when it is left hanging in the wind.

    His Women - so not are you overtly homophobic your also have a streak of misogyny as well, what makes you think you own women?

    - - - Updated - - -

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
  13. Liberalis

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    If you are against depravity than you are against the anti-gay Russian laws, for it is those laws that are truly morally corrupt.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So China Russia and India is the civilized world and the West and Europe are uncivilized. You forgot to include most of the Middle east in your definition of "civilized"

    If you do not agree with the Constitution and Bill of Rights (Individual freedoms and so on) that is your choice, it is a free country.
     
  15. migueldarican

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    His women? Plural? So you're against homosexuality, but polygamy is A-Okay! :thumbsup:
     
  16. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Yes , he posted what was "claimed" to be their agenda when in fact is it their written and published agenda.
     
  17. migueldarican

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    I could write and publish an book stating that all bearded Latinos need to grow wings and fly. That doesn't make it the bearded Latino agenda.

    Try to use some logic here. Religious groups believe what they believe because they have literature telling them what's what. Gays don't need some book to tell them to fight for equality. The fight for gay rights exists independently of "After the Ball".

    The current claims about what the Gay Agenda is about implies that there's "more than meets the eye." That gay people say all they want is equality. Oooh but what they really want is superiority and privilege. They want to turn our kids gay. They want to gay up all humanity, until heterosexuals are whiped out.

    There's only one agenda that gay rights agrees on... that's it... it's... gay rights. To claim there's anything more than that is to elect an AlexJones-ian frame of thought. Better stay away from that flouride!
     
  18. dixon76710

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    On the other hand, if all the bearded latinos did so, one might conclude it was such an agenda. 25 years of following Marshalls agenda leads to a similiar conclusion.
     
  19. ProgressivePatriot

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    Wow that's refreshing! In your face, unabashed , over the top hatred!! No bull! No logical fallacies or intellectual dishonesty of any kind. I can almost respect you,. In fact I do, a least more so than the one who invoke the specter of polygamy, incest and pedophilia. More than the ones who talk about "procreation" or the downfall of Christianity. Yes a bit more, but not much
     
  20. migueldarican

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    But you're missing the point. If in my example, all the bearded latinos were already doing so, regardless of my "written agenda", the only thing that would mean for my book is that it was some sort of self help book.

    It's pure idiocy to believe that if Marshall didn't write "After the Ball" there would be no gay activism. As evidence let's look at the "agenda list" that seems to be the big, bad clobber evidence to the Gaygenda:

    [1] TALK ABOUT GAYS AND GAYNESS AS LOUDLY AND AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.....

    Activism typically brings with it those who are "loud as often as possible". Every era in our history where a group of people is fighting for something, some sort of freedom and equality, this is a typical method. So would this have happened without Marshall? Yes.

    [2] PORTRAY GAYS AS VICTIMS, NOT AS AGGRESSIVE CHALLENGERS....

    This is a peculiar one. Gays have been and still are victims. Read your history. Look what they're fighting for. As long as they are less than equal, they are victims. Then we have "aggressive challengers". All I have to do is look at gay activism to know they're not even following this part of the agenda. Again, in all points of "activism" in our history, "aggressive challengers" are typical. This point of the "agenda" would only be evidence to the existence of the "Gaygenda" if in fact gay activism were following this rule. They are not. Some are peaceful protestors, and some are loud and aggressive. Which is typical of any activism.

    [3] GIVE PROTECTORS A JUST CAUSE.....

    As stated there already is a just cause. Gay activism is fighting for equality.

    [4] MAKE GAYS LOOK GOOD.......

    Again not doing a good job here. A lot of gays even admit that gay people are equal in all ways, including good or bad.

    Did you read through the descriptions of all these bullet points? The one under this one starts out as "portray him as the Everyman". No "portraying" needed. I have gay friends, simply put, they're as normal as anyone else. They just like the same sex. That really is it. They have regular jobs, regular likes, regular needs. But as I pointed out before, the "everyman" is also sometimes anywhere from annoying and obnoxious to downright villainous and evil. Gays are capable of that as well. Every gay person in this forum will tell you this.

    [5] MAKE THE VICTIMIZERS LOOK BAD........

    Again, this is almost not needed. The "victimizers" make themselves look bad. The arguments they use lack logic. And the list of high ranking antigay activists who are getting their true sexuality "uncloseted" just keeps getting bigger.

    [6] SOLICIT FUNDS: THE BUCK STOPS HERE......

    Again, not a needed point to make. If the activism appears to have a just cause and is popular, corporate America will respond, both negatively (Chic-Fil-a) or positively (Campbell Soup).

    Now I'm not saying that "After the Ball" is useless. It has its value as literature that seems to offer an outline. But it is certainly not the Bible to gay activism. As evidence to this gay activism doesn't really follow these points, and if they do it's very loosely. You can chalk "After the Ball" up to any other self help book for the gay activist looking to get started. But then I picture one of those cool teachers in front of class who says, "Hey, see that book? Take it and throw it away."

    The reality is that most of gay activism acts independantly of Marshall's "agenda" literature. When some guy came here and started spamming "After the Ball" over and over again, the first reaction was most people, especially the gays, responded with, "Marshall? Who the f--- is Marshall?" (that was an Alice referrence for anyone who appreciates it).
     
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    Not sure of your point. Sprouting wings and flying would still be the bearded latinos agenda. The source of the agenda is irrelevant to the discussion.
     
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    This would only be true if all the bearded latinos were doing it and following the same methods of doing so.

    Then why bother talking about "After the Ball"? What is important is the nature of the agenda. What is your definition of the Gay Agenda then?

    The only "agenda" that all or most gay activists share is the fight for gay rights. But the perception that tin foil hat wearing theorists have is that there's something more than meats the eye. The implication is that there's a group think. There's thumbtacks on a wall map with string connecting all of them. While gay activists say all they want is equality, what they really want is superiority. They want to recruit our children. And there simply isn't any evidence to this.
     
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    We are in league with the illuminati the free masons and the mushroom people to take over the world. We won't rest until all bow to their gay overlords.
     
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    Don't forget the aliens. Their superior technology will solidify victory.
     
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    Aliens and men from Atlantis also.
     

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