The Inevitable Backlash Is Coming

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  1. impermanence

    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Blaming present day people for the sins of their ancestors is a strategy destined to massively fail. Despite guilt-driven virtue signaling by untold numbers of Caucasian Americans, creating a meme where you castigate/denigrate an entire race of people, then [on top of that] attempt to extort these innocent folks through demanding reparations, is not going to end well.

    Ironically, very few people actually believe any of this non-sense as those in positions of leadership in the White community are spineless cowards who refuse to stand up to this immoral and blatant reverse racism.

    Although slavery is a shameful chapter in the American experience, one must be cognizant that this practice has been around throughout human history and has touched us all if we choose to connect the dots far enough back in time.

    If reparations were the answer to the injustices suffered by people over the millennia, who exactly would not be owed? Just look at the tens of millions of people slaughtered in the various wars of the 20th century. Would all of these victims' descendants be due reparations, as well? How about the people who lost land and other property over thousands of years due to all kinds of sovereign, institutional, and private mischief?

    The bottom-line is that you could spend the next five hundred years attempting to figure out who stole what from whom and who owes whom what, but wise people in the past determined that it is best to leave this can of whoop-ass be.

    Over and above the damage done to race relations with this neo-racist propaganda, there will be an inevitable backlash. Instead of addressing the actual problems that confront the Black community, race hustlers and 'something for nothing' con-artists believe they can effect some sort of Utopian miracle by declaring all Caucasian people evil and transferring [to themselves] a percentage of the White community's wealth.

    Is it any wonder the Black community is having difficulties addressing its core issues with this kind of leadership? Imagine spending such an enormous amount of time, effort, and treasure blaming completely innocent people for sins that occurred over the past four hundred years!

    Trillions of dollars have been spent attempting to do what can never be done...fixing issues only addressable by the Black community itself. Once responsible Black leadership assesses exactly what needs to be done, then perhaps society [as a whole] can help, but declaring that an entire race just won the reparations lottery is NOT going to work on any level.

    As the Great Society programs of LBJ and others in 60's demonstrated time and again, prosperity cannot be awarded. It must be earned. Twenty percent of the Black community has found success through hard work despite massive government interference that has contributed to destroying the Black family [in particular] by supporting fatherless single-mother homes. Not only has this caused irreparable harm to several generations of Black children, but it has deflected blame from root causes.

    It should be clear that the family must once again become the priority of American society. This support is the foundation of building successful lives and will not only help to rejuvenate the Black community, but it will attempt to prevent similar tragedies from gaining steam throughout society.

    There is no systemic racism, only systemic ignorance allowing incompetent and corrupt leadership to navigate a path towards societal collapse for all but themselves. The only answer is to re-empower individuals and communities to make the correct decisions that will work for them, be they Black, Brown, White, Yellow, Red, Purple, or Green.

    It is time to dis-empower the corporate-state that appears to thrive on pitting one group of Americans against another. These parasites must go before the inevitable calamity of serious civil disobedience gets underway because that's where we're heading.

    Four hundred million firearms is a really good reason to restore individual freedoms and treat The Constitution like the law of the land it is.

    The clock is ticking...
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Added to this paragraph...

    There is no systemic racism, only systemic ignorance allowing incompetent and corrupt leadership to navigate a path towards societal collapse for all but themselves. The only answer is to re-empower individuals and communities to make the correct decisions that will work for them [within the context of working for the entire society], be they Black, Brown, White, Yellow, Red, Purple, or Green.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if all this is being done to stir up hate against black people.

    As a whole we're becoming more and more racist by the day as a result of all this nonsense being forced down our throats.

    Dunno what the end goal is... But it seems like a lot of good work being undone , we are anything but unified these days.

    Sad times.
     
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    The end goal is as it has always been---get votes for your side and deny votes to the other side. Race is the perpetual redherring
     
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    There is systemic racism. It’s just not against blacks.
     
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    Nothing our ancestors did was out fault, we shouldn't be ashamed of it.

    Nothing our ancestors did was our fault, we shouldn't be proud of it.

    No blame or credit belongs to us. None of us had anything to do with building this country, and we didn't earn credit or blame for anything our grandfathers did.

    An immigrant who entered the country on the day we were born, doesn't owe this country any more than we do.
     
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    If each person takes full responsibility for their own actions, we're good.

    People who live in the past [on the whole] are miserable.

    As things improve with time, you can always look back and play Monday morning quarterback...but it never helps. Keep moving forward.
     
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    Pretending that the past doesn't impact the present is wrong though.

    I don't owe anyone anything, but that doesn't change the fact that my life as been much easier because i was born white. That goes for every single white person in the country, no matter what circumstances they were born in. They would have been worse off had they been born into those same circumstances, but not white.

    It is an undeniable objective fact. it's not my fault, it's not your fault, but it is our fault if we pretend that isn't the case.
     
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    Fortunately, the courts keep striking down the new racist regulations and laws, but this is what happens when you have cowards for leaders.
     
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    Then why are most poor people in this country white?
     
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    Because you don't understand the point.
     
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    Right, that must be it.

    And why are such a high percentage of Jews and Asians successful?

    The answer is culture. 20% of the Black community is doing really well now because these people got with the program.

    Look, it's horrible what has happened to a great percentage of the Black community, but they are going to have to fix their culture, just like the entire country is going to have to fix this woke non-sense that is poisoning just about everything.

    Either you fix it or everything goes to hell. This is not rocket science.
     
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    Like I said, you don't understand the problem.

    Black culture = American culture
     
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    Oh really? Well, perhaps you should spend a week or two in Chicago, Baltimore, or Philadelphia. Then go to areas where a high percentage of Asians or Jews live. Asian and Jewish kids [on the whole] study, study, study, because this is what is expected of them by their parents and their communities. It's the culture.

    Remember, the Black community was doing remarkably well considering [because their families and communities were intact] pre-1960's. Gaining equal rights under the law was a GREAT thing for the Black community during the Civil Rights movement BUT the welfare programs systematically destroyed a great deal of the Black family and community. THIS NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED.
     
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    So do you think black people are just naturally less inclined to study? Why would their culture be like this if it wasn't just the natural state of black people?
     
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    No, you and people who think like you do, do. The last thing the Black community needed was white liberals telling them what they needed to do. THIS was the mistake and the welfare state that descended on the Black community tore it to shreds. Haven't you people done enough harm? How much worse do things have to get? And now you want to do it to the entire country with welfare for everybody.

    Welfare does not work. This was known even before it started. It also must be acknowledged that there are a certain percentage of people who need help, but you must devise a way of helping them that does not make their problems 10x worse. The welfare system of making people dependent on government is a 100% failure. It's time to move on.

    The point is that their culture was NOT like this before the 60's. The family and church were the bedrock of their communities. Welfare destroyed much of that.

    Do you think street culture is black culture?
     
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    Have I said anything about what black people need to do?

    I'm just trying to explain white privilege to white people, who respond by saying what they think black people need to do.
     
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    Are you kidding?

    Everybody knows what it means and almost everybody thinks it's total bs. Again, there are tens of millions of poor white people in this country. There are millions of successful Black people in this county. How could this be?

    You play the hand you are dealt. Nobody can change history but this country gives the most people the best shot at success [and some better than others due to systemic advantages]. Instead of seeing only the bad, celebrate the good now and again.
     
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    Everybody knows what it means and almost everybody thinks it's total bs. Again, there are tens of millions of poor white people in this country. There are millions of successful Black people in this county. How could this be?

    You play the hand you are dealt. Nobody can change history but this country gives the most people the best shot at success [and some better than others due to systemic advantages]. Instead of seeing only the bad, celebrate the good now and again.[/QUOTE]


    Have I said anything about what black people need to do?
     
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    If you believe something like white privilege, you don't have to.
     
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    White privilege is real, no matter what you believe.

    I'm just trying to fix white culture, because it's a mess.
     
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    Perhaps you should work on the fact that some people are more attractive, taller, smarter, better physical capacities, have better personalities, on and on and on and on...

    EVERYBODY knows that in a country that has been predominately white that being white is going to be a bit of an advantage. Do you believe it also might be an advantage if you are Asian in an Asian country and Black if you are in a predominately Black country? Do you believe you would have an advantage if you are Italian in Rome?

    Come on, be realistic. You Utopians are ridiculous. The U.S. is THE country which affords minorities the greatest chance for success and has for a long, long time. I am sorry that human life cannot be perfect for people like you but it's time to grow up and deal with humanity as it is.

    You want to do something for white culture, STOP WHINING!! Act like the "privileged" person you are by acting like a man and help people instead of complaining all the time. Imagine complaining about having some advantages in life. You should thank God for your good fortune ten times a day!
     
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    What about anything i've said was utopian?

    The Utopians are the ones pretending that everyone has equality of opportunity.
     
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    This is what a society should work towards. What else can you do?

    Privilege is something most everybody is born with to some degree. Other than that, you play the cards you're dealt. Work hard, be honest, take care of yourself, help others when possible, and you will have the best life you can.

    Be thankful for what you have and don't worry so much about everybody else. Let God worry about the other 8B people...and you do what you can to help while maintaining your balance.

    You are Utopian because you feel as if nobody understands privilege. Everybody does.
     
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    You pretend that white privilege does not exsit.

    You acknowledge privilege exist. There are many variations. Rich privilege, pretty privilege, male privilege, straight privilege, white privilege, and many many others.

    You seem to be willing to acknowledge that different types of privilege do exist, and make life easier, but you just have a problem acknowledging certain sources of privilege.
     

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