The Inevitable Backlash Is Coming

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by impermanence, May 11, 2023.

  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    So you think nepotism is good for society or not?
     
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    Esau Well-Known Member

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    It's true.

    Never, ever, underestimate the next man's greed!
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Well then nobody would watch basketball. As far as government is concerned, find me 1000 really well-balanced, super honest Black people to run the government and you've got a deal! That's all you need.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Of course not, but we are talking about human beings, right?
     
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    It's rubbish anyway.
     
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    Thank you. Therefore white privilege, which under the microscope is nepotism in essence, is wrong. Employing an attractive secretary is totally not.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    OK. Try to avoid this one. A Black guy, a White guy, and a Japanese Guy [again, of the same qualities, same drive, same greed, etc.] open up the same exact business in downtown Tokyo. Who does better? Japanese privilege?

    To expect everything to be the same wherever you go is ridiculous. Perhaps the day will come when people will not care who they are around or who they do business with but that day is not here yet. There is nothing wrong with people choosing to do business with somebody they feel will understand them the best. It's common sense.
     
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    Therefore EVERY privilege. Nobody is denying that White, Black, Brown, Red, Yellow, Green, and Purple privilege exists. It's natural and OK...unless it's not. That's why there are a million anti-discrimination laws on the books. Just the same, people have the right to choose who they wish to do business with, or be friends with, etc. If you are a business, you must comply with the law. Other than erecting a police-state like China is doing, you have to allow people to adapt [and they will]. You never trade freedom for [fill in the blank] 'cause you'll never get it back.
     
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    You have to pick your battles.

    Attractiveness privilege? It's endless...
     
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    You're comparing a multicultural society to a largely homogeneous one.

    Also, you're veering towards nepotism on the path you're on. White Jewish Europeans are the example of the culture you'll emulate on that road.
     
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    Some are worse than others and some lead to horrifying conclusions i.e RBCS.
     
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    It makes perfect sense. White privilege does not [in USA]
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Why? Are you going to the "whiteness is property" meme?
     
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    What is RBCS?
     
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    Please explain.
     
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    Race based chattel slavery.
     
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    As I have not chatted with you before, can you give me the short version of your take on this subject. It will save a great deal of back and forth. Thanks.
     
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    As a Christian it's my belief and the holy scriptures assert that we are indeed guilty of our fathers sins.

    As a pagan you are entitled to believe otherwise.
     
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    I guess I've been called worse things. :)

    Karma suggests that nobody gets away with anything, but modern society seems to concur that nobody should be held accountable for past sins. If this were not the case, then there might be ten times as many attorneys as there are now, and that would be tragic.

    Although I am not a religious person myself, I consider myself very spiritual. I do have great respect for those who are religious and understand the need for this structure in society. Acknowledging the need for a higher moral authority is the foundation for society based upon most of the virtues we consider sacred in the West.
     
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    How many threads have been started about reparations on here by grumpy old white guys? I think I’ve commented on at least three and I think I even started one.

    Reparations based on who is descended from slaves would be a bureaucratic nightmare. Many could not prove it and intermarriage with non-slave ancestors would further confuse the issue. I would propose leaving out slavery altogether in evaluating the need for reparations.

    At Emancipation 13% of the population was Black and over 90% in poverty. What did the dominant society do to help this abused subculture for the next 100 years? Nearly everything in its power to keep it down it seems. Systemic racism, segregation, redlining, reduced access to higher education…..By 1960 55% of Blacks were still in poverty. Now compared to whites they have twice the poverty and jobless rates. They have 1/10 the wealth as whites. Measurable systemic racism continues.

    I heard a Black comedian say one time if they gave out cash for reparations all the Cadillac dealerships would be sold out. Maybe this is where the old adage “if you give a hungry man a fish, you feed him for a day, but if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime” should come in.

    The single biggest way working class and the middle class earn generational wealth is through home ownership. I think Blacks whose families were here before civil rights legislation should be helped with new home loans after being vetted for ability to repay the loans. That is just one thing we could do.
     
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    I don't really understand your position on that last bit I highlighted. To me it sounds comparable to saying once you buy a ticket, you can come see the movie. If you can repay a loan, you should be able to qualify regardless of race unless you have a really really bad credit history. My next door neighbors are black on both sides and they paid a lot more for their houses than my white self did so I can only assume they didn't have problems getting their respective loans.
     
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    Sins of the father is one of the biggest concepts in scripture.

    We can't omit that while accepting Christ.
     
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    Many do have poor credit ratings and not enough money saved for a down payment but have been consistently paying rent.
     
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    I get that BUT [and I am sure you have found this yourself], if you attempt to apply your standards to the world, there is be a great deal of push-back [it's like, 'you can't fight the FED,' kind of idea]

    To me [and I guess, to everybody], the greatest challenge in life is trying to figure out how to live a [real] virtuous life within the context of society [which is anything but].

    How do you go about it?
     
  25. Esau

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    One can only live by example but that shouldn't stop the fight for justice. Protests and revolution do work. For example, we should be out on the streets protesting arms sales to the Ukraine but unfortunately our MSM is in the pockets of the government and arms industry. We need a sustained assault on MSM.
     

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