The Islam haters and the nonsense they name to back the hate!

Yeah, well, it's an Abrahamic faith, so it can be expected that it is as "evolved" as either the Jewish or Christian faiths (who preach more of less the same things.)

 

But those are core democratic values, righ?

 

Thanks for the advice

 

sorta, but not really...

 

It's amazing how the anti-religious left-wing will never miss a chance to defend Islam, the religion that opposes progressivism arguably more than any other. Never underestimate the desire of white liberals to defend brown people.

 

I see how your mind works...yes, and it's sorely lacking in knowledge of statistics.

You've made a lot of assumptions that are wrong. You're assuming that all americans are equally likely to travel to other countries....this is very wrong. Can you show evidence that all americans are equally likely to travel to other countries? I doubt it. Furthermore, you're assuming that criminals are just as likely as non criminals to travel to other countries....again, ridiculous. You'd have to somehow obtain data about those traveling abroad and look at what percentage of those are criminals, then draw a conclusion. Also, if americans are so dangerous to other countries....where's all the crime we're committing? Surely you can point to it right? No...of course you can't and there's a reason you can't.

Stop attempting to draw conclusions based on minimal data, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Although, if you were trying to be absurd, spot on job.

 

it is amazing who fast Classifications of people can happen ...

I'm atheist, I defend Islam religion against BS blabbering, so I can only be an evil lefty. never underestimate the strange actions of the righties ... and thank you for education to let me know that I'm a lefty.

 

Of course I was trying to be absurd.

Holding the mirror to the other side's face. Trump is no more rational saying there are a lot of bad hombres in Mexico. What does that mean? Did he show any statistics about crime? No he didn't. Why do you expect me to do it when the other side has no interest in a discussion about actual risks, all they are interested in is appeal to emotion.

 

Everything you said could be applied equally to the left.

You're not getting anywhere with this argument.

 

You over analyzed this. There's an easier way to judge the religions.

1. Islam is the only religion that on a daily basis, someone is blowing themselves up in the name of it, in order to kill innocent people.
2. Everyone else is not

Bam. Just solved the equation.

 

what about Sharia law? can you explain how that's good?

 

Maybe not, but not far long aga this was all the case in our so unlighted Western democracies given too. Until when was it a crime to be gay. Until when were schools split into boys or girls only? Until when was it forbidden that women can vote? When was it given that women could join a job without permission of their husband?

 

1. Not true
2. Not true

Bam ...

 

Well ... how much of our laws are based on bible and / or Christian values?

Religion and state have to be divided and indeed, this is a core problem and good point.

 

a few, but the laws that are religiously based in western civilization do not punish homosexuality with possibility of death, or allow a man to beat his wife

 

Those that do speak out are not reported. Those that are in the middle of those terrorists are busy fighting them - Syria, Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis & Syrians have been killed by these terrorists. It only takes one terrorist to kill 100 people. Believe me, they are hated and that hatred is spoken out on social media. Social media is more powerful than mainstream media within the younger generation but unfortunately that power works both ways.

Meanwhile, there was this that was created by Muslims in London:
https://www.launchgood.com/project/muslims_united_for_london#/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-uk-muslim-community-donations-a7645396.html

 

Ok, then link us to all the Christian suicide bombers blowing themselves up in the name of Jesus Christ. Let's compare it to the Muslims blowing themselves up in the name of Allah. Cite your sources so we can verify your claims about these other religions doing this in the name of their god, as you claim by saying "not true".

Thanks!

 

How so?

Couldn't you see that another country with a populist/nationalist in charge could say: See, the US has the most % of criminals in the world, so let's ban them to visit our country. It may rile up their base too, since it is always easy to blame a country's problem on the "others".

I know, because my country of birth has done it in the past with jews.

 

Are you rooting for Le Pen? Do you think she has a shot?

Millions of us Americans are hoping you guys make the right decision. We love France, and we want it to stay French.

 

Mandelus, please fill free to load up Germany, if that is your home, with as many of these muslims you want to defend. Other more intelligent nations will eventually see the danger, and will stop enabling the invasion of a religion and culture that would delight in seeing your german head roll down the streets. We understand muslims and Islamic culture is opposed to western culture and values, and there is nothing in this world more powerful than religious beliefs. Islam has shown the greatest resistance to reform, than any religion ever to exist on this earth. A muslim. a so called moderate will convert to radical islam, before they would embrace a non muslim belief system. For radicals are still muslims, but your german secular society is not. Until you understand this, all of your intellectualizing divorces you from reality. Religion is from the gut, not from an intellectual viewpoint, which is what separates it from the secular intellectual. All of your intellectualizing will never trump what is from the gut, and Islam is a gut religion, based upon a book that tell muslims how they must behave and what they must believe, with the refusal to do that is not acceptable while alive, and certain eternal punishment when dead. This has the power to render you position moot when it comes to islam. You are just another silly westerner, who can be used to turn the world eventually into a muslim world, living under sharia. They appreciate people like you, and will use you like a John uses his whore. But at least the whore is aware she is being used and is fine with it.

There are millions of muslims today who will celebrate, if not outwardly, then inwardly, what happened to the Brits in the UK yesterday. Just as they celebrated in both way after 911. Not all of them, but enough of them, but even if we had a way of knowing the numbers, we would still have apologists like yourself who perhaps see themselves as intellectually and morally superior. Your western conditioned mind is an effective bubble which empowers and enables the next murderous scumbags who belong to the worlds most dangerous religion, which should be wiped off of the face of this earth. The universe seems to have an affinity for poetic justice, so I would be alert whenever you walked down a german street, thinking you are safe from cars and trucks running people over, in the name of Allah. These people love dying for their religious beliefs. What is so important to you, that you would die for, that involves killing other people you do not know and who personally have done nothing against you? You probably do not have such a cause. But they sure as hell do.

 

Not today / these days, but only some decades ago they were existing at us too! Maybe not death penalty for gays, but the rest and much was part of our Western democratic laws!

 

Yeah ... if nothing else helps, the telling that Germany should take it. And show me these millions of Muslims cheering now please?

Even after 9/11 this BS was told and later found out that a pure lie!

 

Problem? Americas founders made provisions for separation, and tolerance, not elimination of morality or human values associated with faith. The fact that American values run parallel to Christian values only present themselves as a "problem" to those who seek to undermine both.

 

Are they real Muslims? No ... otherwise they will not bomb and do such BS. Any other further question?

 

Let any American Politician officially say he is atheist ... it will end his career immediately!
And you know that much of the values in Islam are the same as Christians? And as I told, look in the history of your law about since when women were allowed all things same way as men.