The Islam haters and the nonsense they name to back the hate!

I have spent more than 30 years looking for evidence and reason for the one true God. I have been given all that and more.
I have also looked and read the little I can discern about any empirical evidence for Allah, Islam, Hinduism, et al. Nothing convincing. To be sure, it is next to impossible to find a legitimate debate where a Muslim cleric will take on a Christian theologian on this subject.

There are some "lower level" supernatural manifestations one can point to that may have occurred in Hinduism, even less in Islam, but that in itself does not prove their god or gods is God. The miracles in Catholicism dwarf them in the most compelling way, both in volume but even more so in gravity. The miracles in Catholicism are surrounded by acts of mercy, charity and penance and most of all, reason. They tie in the the well documented history since Christ, the charity of the Church, the thousands of saints who also performed great signs and great acts of charity and suffering. They are continuous.

So skeptics on these boards demand proof of God in a matter of me offering two paragraphs. What does that tell me? It tells me they either do not care enough to do an honest search themselves or they are looking for a cheap excuse to continue in their unbelief and unaccountabiltiy to anyone for their actions and choices on earth.

Fatima alone proves Jesus Christ. So does the Shroud of Turin. So does the 250,000 Egyptians who witnessed with their own eyes the Virgin Mary on top of a Coptic Cathedral in Zeitoun in 1968. So do hundreds of weeping statues and paintings of Jesus and Mary. But no one wants to know the truth, they would rather be ignorant.

 

Ignorance is not an insult, it is a condition of not knowing..After 40 years of searching for the truth, I can tell you that what is written, isn't close to the truth..I know you won't believe me, and it took me many years to accept, that we aren't suppose to know..It ruins the end of the story..

 

I am well aware there are people who have devoured the Bible and come away unconvinced.
But I never cited the Bible as one reason for my belief. The supernatural manifestations of the Judeo-Christian G-d alone, is all I need to make sense of it all: and with no logical explanation for such signs and wonders except that it has to be from God.

God provides signs to bolster the faith of the believer and to challenge the doubter. The absolute miracle of human life and a rational mind without a higher purpose is totally illogical and untenable. We are not some accident in nature. We did not arise by chance from primordial soup.

 

Tell me; how many muslims do you know, personally?

 

Did the OP ever hear of 9-11??????????????

 

All religions are made-up by men for various reasons. But they are not all equal - some are better than others. i should point out that this fellow who just shot up London in the name of Allah was not named Joe Smith...

 

I have studied all religions through the history of humans also..Yet religion is not what will lead you to finding what you speak of....

 

If you have noticed, there has never been a shortage of humans willing to kill to get their point across, no matter what religion or ethnicity..

 

That's irrelevant. It's the ideology. Not every Nazi put a Jew into an oven.

 

As of late, however... say within our lifetimes... starting with the 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing in Beirut, it seems fewer of those willing to kill to get their point across have names like Joe Smith and Bob Anderson. Actually, you could probably start the clock in 1972 in Munich.

 

Islam began as an army and pretty much stayed that way until they became so technologically backward that they simply couldn't compete anymore

Attaturk tried to make up for the technological backwardness of the Islamic world by secularizing Turkey but it did not help, Islam is by it very nature antithetical to economic and technological progress. This is largely why Al Qaeda and it various clones have resorted to asymmetrical warfare in their insane attempt to conquer the world.

 

Have you ever noticed that the greatest mass murderers in world history were atheists?

 

Muslims are the only people who will get violent if you tell them their religion is a bunch of made up garbage dreamed up by pederasts and snake oil peddlers.

 

Universal love, not hate, was Jesus platform. Our religion permits bias ONLY against evil, ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. . . . Remember, God promised that He would spare Sodom and Gomorrah if Lot could identify ONE worthy inhabitant.

Muhammed was a direct descendent of Ishmael, son of Abraham and half-brother of Isaac. Because of Sarah's jealousy, Ishmael and his mother, Hagar, were banished into the wilderness, and Ishmael lost his rightful birthright as firstborn son. Actually, God as identified in the Torah, the Koran, and the Christian Bible are the same Supreme Being; dogmatic divergence began after the birth of Christ. Violence and corruption have woefully been evidenced in all three religions using faith as justification.

The Crucifixion and subsequent Resurrection ushered in our present Covenant of Grace. I challenge you to quote ANY WORDS OF JESUS justifying this discrimination.

 

Jesus asked the disciples,"Have you any Swords among you?

 

What version (!!!!) of Koran did you read?

is not so that the Norwegian mass murder who reasoned his bombing and mass shooting as "Christian Crusade against Left and Islam" was directly rated by all Christ loving people not to be a real Christian?
So why are these bastards who bomb and kill people in name of Jihad and Islam then rated to be for sure Muslims?

 

Did you ever heard of the evil crimes done by the USA?
No, they don't reason terror, but they make a deeper understanding of the background!

next time, when a Christian idiot bombs an abortion center in name of his faith, we damn all Christians too?

 

And the reason why this is the case, you can find in the white painted House in your capital!

 

For sure not Joe Smith... but so what?

I'm atheist and out of this neutral to all religions. I respect all religions, because if people want to believe to whatever god then they shall do ... but they have to respect the laws, rules, values and culture of others, particularly if living in another country! I never told otherwise ...

It sound impudent ... I know ... but at least the Islamist terrorist is what the West earned form their behavior since about 100 years in the ME!
Fact is that many of them were colony with people of 2nd class in comparison to the colony owners and they let them know and fell it day for day!
After end of WW-2 the West did not better! Claiming things about democracy, freedom and whatever in core good values is one thing, but to back and help worst dictators until today who depress any demand of their people to have these things too ... because these dictators are the ally, is the other thing about!
Wasn't there Arab Spring movement in Qatar for example? When I look on the things of the protests, they wanted democracy and were not demanding to have medieval age again. So they demand good things which we tell to be good, but who helped them? No one, simply because the regime in Qatar is our ally!

So what did these people learn out of this please?

 

This is one subject that I give the nod slightly to conservatives. For example, although I really thought Obama was a dignified and upright president, there was one Obama statement that I thought was unjustified - and that's when he compared the Islamic Militants of today to the Christian Crusaders of the middle ages. I thought that was a low blow. There is no Christian Jihad today, and I thought this was irresponsible on Barack's part.

The Islamic religion was founded with violence, and it seems to continue through history - and it's more than just a few bad eggs.

 

Correct is that Islam was founded with the sword in war against others who wanted to kill them. So was it an aggressive founding to force ohers to believe, or was it a defensive war against others who wanted to eliminate them?

And even the Christians were, as soon as they earned power in Roman Empire not better then ... and this was about 300 years after Christ died!

 

So if a minority of a religion abuses their religion to back terror, the complete religion is evil. Even when there are enough facts, that these bastards are not doing what their religion teaches, it is the evil religion and all people who believe this faith are suspicious evil!

You know that the complete issue of we Christians are evil unbelievers is BS by Koran content, but ignored by the terrorist bastards and those who hate Islam too?

Your god did many times too, because these fellow Christians always forget that the Old Testament is part of their faith too and not only the New Testament as some trolls try to tell again and again!
The bad Imams tells the same BS as the bad pastor tells ... and the good one tells the same good as the good Imams!

A good Imam will teach these parts of Koran:

Sura 2: 62 (The Cow, revealed to Medina): Christians and Jews have their reward for their faith and their deeds with God.

Sura 2, 109: People of the "People of Scripture" will try to dissuade Muslims from the true faith. That is why Muslims are to avoid them, but forgive them.

Sura 2,256: There is no compulsion in religion.

Sura 5, 82 (The table, Medina): Muslims should cherish Christians for their faith and their humility.

and explain then that the term unbeliever is not fitting to Christ and Jews!

 

Agree. Islam was founded on violence and used throughout its history.

 

Do they? Ask them if they favor Sharia law...

Because THEY themselves say they are TRUE Muslims. If they believe it, then you have to deal with that . Are you Muslim?

 

No such thing as a "moderate muslim". Islam is a backwards hateful misogynistic tribal cult, and the so called "moderate" is simply one that goes along and keeps their mouth shut to the the atrocities. That is out of fear. Speak up and publucly criticize Islam's faults and hate and you're marked. Try to leave Islam and you're marked for death. It's like the mafia.