The Islam haters and the nonsense they name to back the hate!

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  1. Xtremenerd

    Xtremenerd Well-Known Member

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    No, legalizing the death of minorities never existed in America, there were laws in place to prevent them, but racists in the south ignored them and lynched minorities, and they were never punished because law enforcement was run by bigots as well, but those acts of murder were never legal in the U.S, or in any other free country.
     
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    Atheists: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists_in_politics_and_law
     
  3. VotreAltesse

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    No. I think we need less corruption and Le Pen will not bring that, she is herself under investigation. For France staying french, somehow, I think this country is somehow already dead because of globalization. French culture and way of thinking is still unique, but a big part of that disappeared in favor of the american culture. I don't blame USA for that, and I don't think american movie or music producers created their movie or music while thinking "*evil laugh* we will destroy european culture with our movies and music", things just happened. It's a slow process, and the country don't disappear immediatly, we are just fading away.

    About muslim, I believe in the french republic and it's values : Freedom, equality, brotherhood. You will find that wrotten on almost every city hall, and a lot of old schools. At those three words, we can add a last one who have in France a lot of signifiance : secularity.
    That's the basis of the golden age of France who stopped in 1914 for obvious reasons. When 30 % of young men of a country die, dont except that this country will stay on point.

    The heart of french republic is the school and that legend was born when school became mandatory around 1880. Every people who grow up in France have to learn something : you are first a french citizen. Their is no jews, black, catholics, protestants, muslims, white, their is only citizen who believe in "Freedom, equality brotherhood".

    That doesn't mean we want to force people to drop their religion, but it means that they should consider themselves first as citizen before considering themselves as muslims or whatever they want.

    Just now, the thing who make France really sick is not muslims but corruption. Most of our politician use the state for their personnal benefit. The full integration of the muslims (a lot of them are now french for the 3rd generation) is a hard challenge but a reachable goal, but to reach that goal, we need an efficient administration and state.
     
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    Of course I could see it. And I'd be fine with it, it's their right to restrict who enters their country.
     
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  5. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    That's a shame. The French are still too cucked for Le Pen.
     
  6. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You didn't answer the question or cite any sources. You just made a claim.
     
  7. Texas Republican

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    America is fading away, too. We have that in common. Sadly, we're not the America of WW II. The left has torn us away from what we were and now we're headed for sucking.
     
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    You're just mad because we called it an Islamist attack and were right. Are you a Muslim? Your country can take them all and good luck with that. You also do not seem to mind sacrificing your citizens to terrorist attacks in the name of insane identity politics. We have more common sense.
     
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    I'm not the kind of people who vote for someone who says "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M DIFFERENT", I need proves. Le Pen can shout as much she want she is different, if she keep the same poor political programme, I have no reason to vote her.
     
  10. RiseAgainst

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    All the right people in your country are against her. The media are against her. The politicians are bringing up false corruption charges to try to destroy her because they're afraid of her. She's your only hope to save France.

    They tried the same with Donald Trump here. Don't fall for it. Look at your enemies and see who they are against and go for them. Trust me there's a reason they're against her so strongly.
     
  11. Conviction

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    Myth #6

    Moderate Muslims make up the majority of Muslims and thus hold their culture accountable to the standards of the modern world.
     
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    It's not whether YOU think they are real Muslims(they don't CARE what you think)-----it is what THEY THINK, and they believe that what they do is the pure form of Islam. Have you ever read the Koran? I have read parts of it, and it is very disturbing. Instead of modernizing the book with the times, they still live in the dark ages. They are homophobes, misogynists, antisemitic, anti Christian, etc. Why on God's green earth, would you DEFEND their beliefs? You are an infidel to them---Convert or DIE...More Germans have joined to fight with ISIS than have fought with NATO. Don't you have some ridiculous stipulation that your soldiers are not allowed to engage?
     
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    I despise the ideological-political philosophy of Islam. It was begun by a mass murdering sociopathic pedophile rapist warlord and is based upon his sadism, horrific psychosis and bigotries, including extreme misogyny, homophobia, xenophobia, anti-secularism, and violence. A large percentage of M.E. Muslims continue to hold and practice these values.

    It is destructive to our society and political process to import such people of the ideological-political values and practices of Islam into the USA. No positive reason benefiting the USA to do so is ever given. Rather it is just asserted unless a person can be proven to be a terrorist they must be admitted, which is absurd reasoning. The OP makes such a false assertion.
     
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    IOW, you are asking us to believe you over our own eyes and ears.

    You are asking too much.

    Since 09/11/01 there have been more than 28,000 separate attacks on innocent people where in most cases at least one person has been murdered, in some only maimed. These are non-military attacks, these are your “run of the mill” terrorists for Allah. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30 Go read the details, attack by attack, year by year.

    28,000 !! Compared to how many by zealot or terrorists from other religions? 100? 200?

    But you can defend this, hah? You can defend the three Indonesian school girls who were ambushed by Islamic zealots and their beheaded bodies left on the road. Beheaded beause they were Christian girls and girls do not go to school to get educated according to those Islamic loyalists.

    Muhammad conquered Christian lands and non-Muslim lands by the sword. By conquering, oppression and forced conversions. That’s all I see from your god. Christianity, by and large, civilized the worlds it entered into. Yes, I know there were deaths and disease and some oppression, but that is minimal to all the education, charity, health care, discoveries, civilized government this religion brought to barbaric lands. Or were you Ok with the “advanced” Aztecs sacrificing many thousands of children each year to their “gods?”

    I am not holding Muslims accountable for staying Muslim. After all, most of them do not dare question their religion lest they be killed for it. But I am telling you there is only one God and Allah and the Judeo-Christian G-d are not the same. Prove to me through empirical evidence and miracles that your god even exists.
     
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    I do respect your defense of Islam but I would be even more impressed with someone that practiced that sort of defense with all religions! Hate to be the one to bring this to your attention, but when someone picks and chooses to support one belief but condemns another that leads to Bigotry! Soon it will migrate to color, race, ethnicity, sexual preferences and on and on, tolerance and equality is king in this situation!
     
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    As a country we don't believe that way, but there will always be those warped folks that believe their philosophy is sound even if it involves murder of those they believe to be a danger to them and their philosophy! Intolerance and Bigotry are by far the biggest danger man faces, if those two find their way to deliberate people we see the birth of sick people like Hitler! Toleration is key, it's a sad admission but as a species we haven't managed that, although we have convinced ourselves we are ;)
     
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    See, you've just shown yourself to be completely ignorant of or in denial of the reality. Both of those statements are true, no one else on earth is blowing him/herself up in the name of his/her religion. Christians and Hindus at various times will mount armed attacks on others in the name of religion, but they don't blow themselves up. And terrorist attacks by Muslims are in fact a feature of daily life. We don't hear about most of them because most of them happen in Islamic countries, but they do happen. There were 11 suicide attacks last week, more than one a day, and 39 attacks total, more than five a day, by Muslims:

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
     
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    It is suicide to tolerate those who want to kill you.
     
  19. truth and justice

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    There have been many many more than 28,000 separate attacks on innocent Muslim people by your military in 'your' "catch-all" excuse of anti-terrorism war fare. But hey, bombing from 1500 miles away is not terrorism :roll:

    Prove to me through empirical evidence and miracles that any god even exists, let alone you trying to say they are different!
     
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    Hard for me to respond to nonsense with reason and moral sensibility.

    We've tried a thousand times before. I cannot account for various kinds of blindness.
     
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    I'm 100% convinced that you don't understand Islam very well at all, but hopefully I'm wrong.
    So to test this out, please tell us the top 3 worst things (off the top of your head) in the Islamic texts.
    Thanks.
     
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    You've asked for someone to prove that their god is not the same as yours but you can't even prove that any god exists? How can anyone prove that they are different if you can't even prove that either exist. There is only one person blind here!
     
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    Islam is a backwards misogynistic hateful tribal cult.
     
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    I'm so glad to hear that Muslims are a peaceful bunch. Now all we have to do is figure out how to keep them from flying jetliners into buildings, running people over with cars and trucks, blowing people up in bars / stadiums / marathon races, shooting people up as they go about their business, etc. So happy you set us straight.

    My God doesn't take kindly to people who murder innocents. That's what my Pastor tells me. So what do the Imams say on the subject?

    Yes. And as a rather crass friend of mine likes to point out, (wait for it...): there's nothing worse than a radicalized Persian p*ssy. ;)
     

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