The latest lie from anti-vaxxers

It's quite incredible that someone like me, who posted the largest number of scientific studies on Covid-19 to date, with whole threads started by me about it containing literally thousands of studies if you count the meta-analyses that have hundreds of studies in them, is being challenged about putting up or shutting up. Whatever.

 

Wow.
It was a total joke! No I don't normally demand you put up or shut up. No I am not asking anyone to spend money on a study to prove the satanic compound 'Luciferace' https://www.the-sun.com/health/3988546/what-luciferase-does-track-people-covid-vaccine/ ( as opposed to the enzyme in fireflies for luminescence) is safe on the immune system, so I probably would not ask anyone seriously to produce a peer review article on the topic. And normally newsmax is not the source of my news about the virus. I can't believe you guys thought I, btthegreat, had been reincarnated as a Qnon conspirator overnight. How did Jonathon Swift write ' A Modest Proposal' in 17 00s. or Alexander Pope 'The Rape of the Lock" and communicate parody, irony and sarcasm without an emoticon?

Really?

 

What studies are you looking for? The health impact of a “satanic” enzyme that is not part of our current vaccines?

 

Absolutely. And I demand that Center come forward with those studies to show that the satanic material swimming in the vaccine has not compromised our immune system. News max has a source!

 

You don’t need a research paper to test it.
Take the shot.
Go to the bathroom.
Turn off the light.
If you emit light then the vaccine contained these satanic enzymes.
If not then you are good!

 

You don't think that Satan can turn the enzymes on and off at his convenience? Come on Thed, think before you post crap like that!

 

Why would memory B cell component prevent infection across the board? They would possibly impact the ratio of detected infections in vaccinated vs. natural immunity as I discussed earlier in the thread, but we wouldn’t expect NO infections. Memory B cells don’t produce antibodies until AFTER infection. Some long lived plasma cells continually produce antibodies in absence of infection but not in titers sufficient to prevent infection. The value of differentiated mature memory B and long lived plasma cells couldn’t be MORE relevant in a situation where infectiousness is high. It means even though the infection occurs it can be suppressed and cleared faster than when there are memory B cells that don’t have affinity for new variants.

The very high natural immunity rate in South Africa (possibly over 70%) would EXPLAIN why Omicron has less hospitalizations in SA but it doesn’t look like that lower hospitalization rate is showing up in populations with less natural and hybrid immunity.

Memory B cells and LLPC with more affinity for mutated antigen IS helpful now in my opinion.

If the estimates are correct yes I would agree with that assessment. I understand how this changes things. Perhaps I’m perceived as stoic because I prepared myself mentally and physically for this eventuality. I even warned others to make a plan B for such eventualities where vaccines couldn’t save us.

Yes it will pass fast. That’s not really debatable. Vaccinated, unvaccinated and convalescents are being infected in droves. What happens after infection is what matters now—cellular immunity.

I believe protection from infection is around 20% for both two doses of vaccine and convalescents. Those with boosters are theorized to have 70-85% protection from infection. I think it will turn out lower because potential infection events are going to increase substantially. Immunogenicity of neutralizing immune components is only part of the equation. Half of UK adults have had boosters and Omicron is sweeping through the UK. I don’t see us vaccinating our way out of Omicron.

Hopefully I’m wrong and the lower rates of severe Covid from Omicron are not related to the known superior memory B cell and LLPC components of natural immunity in highly infected countries like South Africa. If I’m wrong, we all benefit. If I’m right, countries like Australia are going to get smoked.

 

OK, sorry, I'm not particularly good a reading sarcasm in a forum without emoticons. Sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't. My apologies.

 

Yes, you have a good point about severity of infection, which is where cellular immunity is important.
I think it may be a bit worse in the UK because they have had a lot of Oxford/AstraZeneca immunization and this brand has been shown to be pretty much useless against Omicron.

 

There are plenty of lies from both sides.

 

Now that's the truth

 

So called doctor goes out of his way throwing another BS from nowhere, instead of admitting that vaccines are useless.

 

Every hospital in the world are reporting that a higher percentage of the unvaccinated are hospitalised than the percentage of the vaccinated in any particular age range

 

They are reporting whatever political scientists have told them to report. Doctors can lose their licenses according to "so called doctor" if they say something that breaks official narrative.
Just look at the statistics, there is zero reduction in infections and COVID death rates despite all vaccination efforts. Virus will mutate eventually and get milder, but it has nothing do do with vaccines.
There is no way to produce vaccine to common cold virus that is changing every 4-6 months.

 

How long did they study that?