The Necessity of Abortion

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  1. Max Rockatansky

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    The problem with that plan is that those who we want to have children won't and those who shouldn't be having children will have several.
     
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    We practice eugenics all the time...lately on our southern border.
     
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    It seems to be a major problem for you because all the indicators show that the far right will have a 7-2 super majority in the Supreme Court by the time Trump is done with it.

    Everyone has a right to life even The Unborn.

    Enjoy!
     
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    I'm sure the OP agrees.
     
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    If that were true, then the Alt-Right would support open borders. :)
     
  6. Liberty Monkey

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    So they are killing people on the border we missed that one can you send us links that show many thousands have died in the last 18 months crossing the border legally?
     
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    Just because you don't kill them yourself and are only abandoning them doesn't mean you are a humanist preserving human life as sacred.
     
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    Touche'!
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    That has no bearing on women's right to choose what to do with their own bodies...YOU don't get to dictate to women what does and doesn't make them happy nor anything else....is that the problem?




    Couldn't answer the question so I'll take that as a "yes" :)


    The right will have a majority, as it did with RvW, but there still has to be a reason/case/argument to overturn it and righties haven't had one in almost 50 years :)


    No, the unborn don't have a right to life but BORN women do.


    I compliment you on your ability to cherry pick my posts so you don't have to address those INCONVENIENT points :)
     
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    So not Eugenics then! Try to use the correct language otherwise you just create confusion. Also completely irrelevant to the thread and just a way to try and hammer in a bit of partisanship into every last cranny.

    How do you feel about the
    https://stran.senate.ca.gov/sites/stran.senate.ca.gov/files/homelessness_in_california_nov_2015.pdf

    One would think you must be even more appalled by California's policies that keep children alone on the streets and vulnerable with no shelter to be abused.
     
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    Amazing you're still single...
     
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    One would think you'd be more appalled by children living on the streets than the welfare of a fetus.
     
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    Strange isn't it? They have this weird fascination with other women's fetuses but after it's born they don't care what happens to it.
     
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    Over the years I have developed the opinion that liberals like abortion to keep the numbers of minorities at managable levels - after all, according to Democrat actions, minorities are only good for votes. Consider that the Democrats condone the deaths of innocent babies while fighting tooth and nail to keep the most hardened criminals on the streets to wreak their own brand of violent havoc.

    Consider the FACT that Roe V Wade will never be overturned - BUT.... what if the SCOTUS with Kavanaugh gets a case to determine when the life of a child begins - is it at birth or when the child can live outside of the womb?
     
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    I am but I can still be against Eugenics too!

    And bear in mind against eugenics is not against abortion which I am uncomfortable with BUT would never want to remove a woman's right to.

    An abortion after a baby is viable is very different though, I would be on board with 12 week I find it harder to get on board with 24 week.

    Funny though NO ONE mentioned when the crisis at the border happened, about the children in California who were homeless. We've stopped families being separated we have done nothing for the children in California except ignore THEM!

    Fox News very disappointed you didn't do a basic search from California's own records this is the point you should have shoved and then we would have action on both sides rather than only the anti Trump side. In the end the real victims are the children who tonight have no roof over their head in safety or someone to guarantee them a good meal.

    No point giving money to California they'll use it to import more kids into poverty.
     
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    Yes....Roe v Wade is all part of a vast conspiracy to keep the numbers of minorities at 'manageable levels', whatever the hell that means. My lord...:roll:
     
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    VERY true !!!
     
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    why can't one be equally appalled by the grossly irresponsible breeding practices that still, despite weeks...months... of knowing precisely how babies are made and how to prevent them, plague 2018 America?

    I mean, it's not my or society's fault that stupid people are also too drunk, lazy or high to use inexpensive and readily available birth control products....it's not my or society's fault that people who live in violent, impoverished war zones without any financial means to escape would risk or even entertain the idea of bringing an innocent life into that hell.

    rewarding chronic stupidity with proverbial 'get out of jail free' cards breeds more stupidity.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    One would think you'd be more appalled by children living on the streets than the welfare of a fetus.




    Do please learn something about abortion.

    A fetus is VIABLE at 23 weeks, and there is a law against abortion after that unless it's for the life/health of the woman and/or fetus.

    At 12 weeks it cannot live outside the woman .

    Most abortion are done between 12 and 18 weeks....although some women do not even know they're pregnant even after that.








    Probably because they are two separate issues.



    "we" have? Where"? How?



    Anther issue....maybe free birth control and abortion are the answer to so many poor kids in the US...



    Ya, only US kids are "precious life".... but we wouldn't want to help them if a penny went to some poor illegal kid...guess "precious life" is in the eyes of the beholder...
     
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    RvW was/is not in the purview or jurisdiction of the federal government or the Constitution.
    But overturning the Supreme Court ruling will have minimal impact in that most (all??) states readily allow abortions with some restrictions. That might change in the future, but for now that is the way it is.
     
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    LOL! How about thousands of years...did you think humans just invented unwanted pregnancies?

    Uh, humans have been having sex wisely and unwisely since there were humans..

    YUP, I am appalled at the fact that safe accessible places to get affordable BC are being shut down BY THE RIGHT.

    Yup, I'm appalled that the right wants to ban abortions so they can castigate, denigrate, and punish poor women and children.


    Babies are a plague to you? How interesting….







    So? No body said it was...





    So you want more poor children born or you don't....hard to tell from that rant.
     
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    So why hasn't RvW been overturned ;)
     
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    A couple questions for anyone whose pro-choice. Have you ever watched a video of an abortion? Probably not, right, because why would you voluntarily watch something like that.

    Why are women that get abortions nine times more likely to commit suicide and suffer from depression? (Not in that order, obviously.)

    Why do 98% of women who get a sonogram or ultrasound before their abortion walk away from it?

    Why do a large portion of pro-choice women say they personally wouldn't get an abortion?

    I personally don't give a crap how many women kill how many babies; it doesnt affect me or my family, but to disguise this immoral, pure evil deed as a woman's right is asinine.

    If you have children and are pro-choice look at your kid in the eyes and imagine if you got him or her aborted.......feel that overwhelming sense of sadness and emptiness? That's because it's wrong.
     
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    The only good reason I know of is it means fewer liberals in the future because lib women are killing future libs in the womb
     
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    Fox hastings you twist words (You're doing a Cathy Newman but then I expect that from you by now.) Of course I know it's 23 weeks (Everyone can use google) but 12 weeks is still a good number for me. We can make exceptions but 3 months and you don't you pregnant that's highly unlikely but it is possible.

    Who do you think those homeless kids ARE! They are mostly illegals and yes I want to help them and no I do not want to send them back because any family that sent their kid into that can be trusted.

    Children are always the victims.

    US increased population from 200,000,000 to 300,000,000 in the last 40 years maybe stop importing so many uneducated, unskilled workers will help to bring poverty rates down.

    Also what you miss is that the women with 10 kids, no husband on benefits aren't aborting their kids so unless you intend to force abortion on people condoms and the pill are the better option.
     
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