The Necessity of Abortion

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    What was?
     
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    It continually astounds me that people have been so willing to hand over the ownership of their own lives to the state. Abortion, marriage equality have absolutely no place in government.

    Unless you are the pregnant woman, there is nothing that makes this your business.

    Many of the world's problems would go POOF! and disappear if the rabid "christian" RWNJ would MYOB.
     
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    And its not. Or at least, poor women don't!

    For a woman to get an abortion, she must first

    Get time off from work.
    Get child care.
    Get a ride with someone who can get time off from work AND child care.
    Pay for that person's child care and reimburse for child care.
    Drive to the clinic/hospital, often in another state.
    Buy the gas to drive to another state.
    Pay to stay in a hotel.
    Pay for her driver to stay in the hotel.
    Pay for food for them both.
    That's not all of it and this is BEFORE the abortion.

    https://clearhealthcosts.com/blog/2014/06/much-abortion-cost-draft-theresas/

    BTW, Steve ... how did your last pregnancy end?

    Oh wait. Looking at your name, its pretty doubtful you have not and never will have to face making this horrendous decision. MYOB
     
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    1.Heart transplants are meant to save lives not end them.

    2.They are correct...shocking huh?


    3.Guilted? Or maybe when they SAW that it was an actual life they realized it was wrong.
    My point was, everyone who ever decided not to get an abortion is greatful they didn't.

    4.Apparently not.

    5.Those two words are interchangeable

    6.How about taking the proper precautions so sex doesn't lead to abortion. Sorry the baby is an inconvenience to you but you don't get to end it's life

    Right being pro-life is really about punishing women for having sex that doesn't sound delusional at all.

    And it's perverted to do because morally abortion is wrong.

    You lefties protest till youre blue in the face about kids being seperated from their familes at the border, but cutting them up and sucking them out through a vacuum is fine.
     
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    And a lot of soilent Green. Mass Murder always makes a society better, ask the germans.
     
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    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    Good how about stop acting like a dog and mating with no control, and use your brain that you just might create another person by your actions. I didn't know women went into heat?
     
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    And the states that care about human life will stop the actions of such murders. If you want to kill someone, and your own kid no less, I hope you die of infection from the back alley abortion. You had sex, now be responsible for your actions. That's what they tell the fathers with forced child support, so equality is only fair.
     
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    There are already far too many humans living on earth. That and economic conditions being what they are, women should average no more than two children - the replacement rate. There are only so many resources that the earth can provide. Adding more people can only degrade life on earth for all of us. Birth control options and use have been increasing but it is always good to have readily available the birth control of last resort, abortion.
    Gee "IMNOTOLIVER. If that is the case, you should off yourself to help the rest of us. One less human in this case would be OK? Seems fair. that seems to by what your are suggesting, so why not YOU!
     
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    I agree. the baby is not a person, and neither were the Jews, Russian, Chinese which have been slaughtered. And medical care is not a constitutional guarantee either.
     
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    And then in 40 or 50 years you'd get a muslim government.
     
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    That went over your head I guess.....all surgery is "icky' was the point.



    I didn't number my points so I have no idea what you're talking about.





    Another Anti-Choicer who thinks women are so stupid they don't know what "pregnant" means.




    How do you know?

    Lots of women who got abortions were grateful...and relieved.


    Again , I did not number my points and have no idea what you refer to here.


    Many women do but NO ONE is obligated to use birth control, NO one is obligated to put drugs or foreign objects in their bodies.



    Yes , for some women a baby would be a great inconvenience...but they can end the life of a fetus if they choose to.

    The only reason for an abortion is that it would be inconvenient to gestate.

    Do you do everything in your life as inconveniently as possible?


    OH? Then why do some say they'd make an exception if the abortion is due to NONconsensual sex (rape) ???????

    "Morals" are not universal, your morals have no right to determine other's morals....and certainly your morals do not determine the law for others.


    Gee, gosh, that's Very Dramatic but hardly the truth and shows clearly you have no idea what an abortion entails.

    But I noticed that Anti-Choicers really have no facts to back up their attempts to take away women's rights to their own bodies so they usually go all drama...

    Yes, lefties care about BORN children who are here now....and righties (Anti-Choicers) only care about the fetus, once it's born to them it is no longer a "precious life"
     
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    :) It won't take that long.
     
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    Probably so. But beyond solid supposition how does anyone know?
     
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    WHOA! You don't think babies and Jews and Russians and Chinese are persons?!!! WTF do you think that?!!!

    And you do NOT agree with me because I do not believe that and never posted it...
     
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    I have no idea, only suppositions. For one a state might outlaw all abortions, and then be certainly sued.
     
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    They don't....even if you implied they do.

    Women just act like humans have since humans were invented...
     
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    The points were numbered in the order you made them I didn't think it would be that difficult to figure out.

    And the abortion process I described is hardly the truth? Its called vacuum aspiration look it up. A late term fetus is too big to fit in the vacuum so they have to cut it up first. I wont post a link because of how horrific it is, but Google a couple abortion videos. You'll find the real graphic ones in no time. You support it i figure you should know what it looks like.
     
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    But DNA does not define or determine life. There is human DNA on the average doorknob. The argument against abortion is that it is wrong to take a human life without due process. Which then raises the debated question of when a fetus is a human life. There are a number of ways to look at that question. Most, but not all, science says that is when the fetus develops distinctly human brain waves which is where human characteristics are clearly distinguished from other animals. This is usually around 5 (4 to 6) months. Incidentally this happens to roughly coincide with the biblical determination of when a woman was pregnant -- at quickening.
     
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    Huh?? If someone is coming at me with a knife I can blow his head off.
     
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    This argument always made me laugh...can we all agree that if the pregnancy is uninterrupted eventually a human will be born and not a moose or a chicken.

    The 50 year old that was in a car accident and has no brain function....is he no longer a human life?
     
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    Well, lets see...
    Alive? Check
    Human? Check
    Thus: Human life.
     
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    Yup you are correct ( sarcasm x 1,000,000). Blacks now have equal rights because us Whites gave it to them, right? Was that a mistake?
     
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    Abortion as a birth control method is totally inefficient !
     
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    Name them

    Because I a man betting that they are not matriarchal but matrilineal or even just currently have a woman in charge
     
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    Agreed

    Reliable contraception is the ideql
     
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