The Real Genocide of Nazi Germany - the biggest cover-up in world history.

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  1. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Soviet Russia itself wasn't a bastion of social progressiveness for one thing, and your theory basically boils down to the idea that Hitler would've nipped Marxism in the bud if we'd sided with him over the Soviet Union.

    Problem with your theory (aside from being unsourced) is that left-wing ideologies had been around in the West for quite awhile before the Soviet Union (as far back as the French Revolution for example), and the actual direct influence of Russia's Marxist thinkers on the West is questionable at best.

    Who's justifying it here? What I'm saying is it's not America's business what Russia did to the Germans or our responsibility to stop them; they brought the Russian Bear on themselves through their invasion.
     
  2. Brewskier

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    [video=youtube;EjaBpVzOohs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaBpVzOohs[/video]

    Watch this and then ask yourself if you still believe the last line you just wrote.

    This too:

    [video=youtube;vrt6msZmU7Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y[/video]

    You ask "who's justifying it" and then end by justifying it. Thanks for the example.
     
  3. Brewskier

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    What the left has done is to use Germany's alleged atrocities against Jews as a reason for why white European peoples should not advocate on behalf of their own race or nations. They need to give up their nations and look forward to the day that they, themselves, are blended out of existence as atonement to minorities. It's suicidal lunacy. No other race has ever done this.

    And what do we have to look forward to? A world with a white minority, even in countries that have always had white majorities, a declining Western culture, an expansion of the Hispanic 3rd world, and an Arabian Europe. We really won something, didn't we? It worked out so well. I hope you guys like Obama and other politicians like him. Thanks to demographic changes brought about by social Marxism, that's all we are going to have from here on out.

    Oh well, at least Asia will keep humanity going forward. They can carry the torch of white Europeans. Let's hope they don't fall for the same deceptions and stay as homogenous as possible, for as long as possible.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there is no evidence that Hitler cared about anything but removing the Jews from the face of the Earth.

    that's why he made it so very difficult for Jews to flee Germany, and made it impossible for them to flee any country that he conquered.
     
  5. Brewskier

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    There's plenty of evidence. He wouldn't have looked into relocating them to Madagascar or Russia if he was planning on just killing them all.

    And he wanted them to leave, actually. The harsh restrictions on them prior to the war starting were meant to encourage them to leave. Himmler wrote a letter to Hitler expressing a desire to rid German lands of Jews by sending them overseas as immigrants.

    Documented history seems to conflict 100% with your claim that Hitler wouldn't let them leave.
     
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    Read Mein Kampf.

    Then consider the implications.

    AboveAlpha
     
  7. Ronstar

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    There was never any significant planning or research into resettling the Jews of Europe to Madagascar, Russia, or anywhere else.

    But they did ship 800,000 Jews to Treblinka...and only 3,000 survived.
     
  8. Mushroom

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    Actually, it started in England. Francis Galton (a cousin of Charles Darwin) realized what evolution meant, and started a movement to put it in place with humans through breeding in 1883. And the movement spread through England and then jumped to the US in the early 1900's. But it spread world-wide, including France, Brazil, Canada, and Japan in addition to Germany.

    In fact, most people do not realize that Margaret Sanger and the organization she started (Planned Parenthood) started as a eugenics organization, with the idea of providing birth control to minorities and the poor as a way to reduce their populations while encouraging the "right people" to expand their families.

    However, other then Germany no nations took their eugenics programs to such levels, including extermination of those who did not fit the desired ideals. In the US and other countries it was more of a passive movement, Germany made it an active one.
     
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    Not only that, WTF makes anybody think that that was anything that should be done?

    Taking millions of people who had lived in Europe for over a thousand years and transplanting them to either a French controlled island off the coast of Africa, or into Russia, a place that was not even theirs. Might as well say we are taking over Cuba, and transplanting all of the people that live there to the Falkland Islands.

    Does that sound reasonable at all? Nobody believes that those transplant concepts were ever going to be done.
     
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    False. Again, documented history seems to disagree with you:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan
     
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    The Dominican Republic said it would take upwards of 100,000 Jews as refugees. They were willing to give 80 acres, a mule, and a horse to every refugee that took part in the program. Only about 500 took them up on the offer.

    Seems like a lot of effort on the part of the German Government if they weren't really serious about relocation. FDR headed up a convention in Evian France in 1938 to discuss the issue.

    We like to sit on a high horse but we as a country weren't willing to take in Jews at the time. Too anti-Semitic.
     
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    we know that there were around 18 million Jews on Earth before WW2.

    we know that this went down to around 13 million after WW2.

    where be the missing Jews? Mars? the Moon?
     
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    "Hitler continued to mention the plan until February 1942, when the idea was permanently shelved.[22] British Empire forces took the island from Vichy France in the Battle of Madagascar in November 1942 and control was transferred to the Free French.

    At the end of 1940, Hitler asked Himmler to draft a new plan for the elimination of the Jews of Europe, and Himmler passed along the task to Heydrich. His draft proposed the deportation of the Jews to the Soviet Union via Poland.[23] The later Generalplan Ost (General Plan for the East), prepared by Professor Konrad Meyer and others, called for deporting the entire population of occupied Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union to Siberia, either for use as slave labour or to be murdered after the Soviet defeat.[24] After the German failure in the Battle of Moscow in December 1941, Hitler resolved that the Jews of Europe were to be exterminated immediately rather than after the war, which now had no end in sight.[25] Since transporting masses of people into a combat zone would be impossible, Heydrich decided that the Jews would be killed in extermination camps set up in occupied areas of Poland.[26] The total number of Jews murdered during the resulting Holocaust is estimated at 5.5 to 6 million people.[27]"
     
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    Wait a minute, wasn't the grand plan from the start was to kill all the Jews? This seems to contradict that spin. I understand Nazis were big on documentation, got anything written by Hitler's to exterminate all Jews?
     
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    109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250
     
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    ah, I see you're also denying that the Holocaust took place.

    tell me, where are all the missing Jews?
     
  17. Brewskier

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    Great, so you can see now that you were incorrect when you said "there was never any significant planning or research into resettling the Jews of Europe to Madagascar, Russia, or anywhere else." Clearly there was.
     
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    Well, take your pick.

    Typically this type claims that either they never existed, or that they went into hiding and are still hiding to this day.
     
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    Where did i deny it, and where did you answer the questions?
     
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    Of course you don't... it may interfere with your fantasy of American exceptionalism.... and ignorance can be comfortable...
     
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    America is exceptional. Is there a better country on Earth? No. You can keep your ignorant Nazi propaganda.
     
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    Hitler actually got his ideas about eugenics and superiority of the Arian race from a movement which began here in California. He was so impressed by it he made it part of the Nazi platform.. Many American icons supported his eugenics program including Rockefeller, Carnegie.

    Nazism was just a copy of a program already in place here in California.... oh I'm sorry "exceptional California"
     
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    Credible reference please.
     
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    That's what Roosevelt wanted! He sacrificed over 2400 American Seamen’s lives to get into the European war. Just like Bush sacrificed 3000 lives in New York to start the war on terror.

    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/pearl_harbor.htm
     
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    That simply isn't true.

    AboveAlpha
     

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