The Real Genocide of Nazi Germany - the biggest cover-up in world history.

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  1. Mushroom

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    Really, this is your reference source?

    http://www.apfn.org/

    And you expect to have a shread of credibility with sourcing something like that?
     
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    Is that what it says in Mein Kompf? I never read it.
     
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    Notice the "credible" part. In that you have failed my young scholar.

    Really? OK, well, nice article, to bad it is complete bullcrap.

    If you look closely, your "reference" is an opinion piece. Opinion pieces are rarely references, simply because they are not about facts, but about opinions. I think I have already shown that the movement originated in England almost a century before Hitler's rise to power, so an opinion claiming it originated decades earlier in California can be considered "busted" and without merit.
     
  5. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Daw!! Maybe this "source" will suit you:

    Everybody knows this, except you!! Is your roof leaking??
     
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    It's not opinion Elmer, it is fact. Go read some history on the subject, or just remain ignorant and butthurt because you have been publicly schooled.
     
  7. Mushroom

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    Sorry, that reference is a big pile of crap also. A 6+ year old personal blog, filled of personal opinions, that is not a reference other then what that individual thinks.

    And yea, FDR made Japan attack the US. What about the UK? Did FDR make Japan attack them too? And China? And the Dutch East Indies? Mongolia? Was FDR behind Japan attacking all of those other countries as well?

    Then you should be able to come up with a credible reference to confirm it, not some half-arsed conspiracy nutcase site.
     
  8. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is another gruesome tidbit from WWII one hardly hears about...
    it was aimed at the German people:

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    1. GERMANY MUST PERISH​


    GERMANY MUST PERISH presents a plan for the structure of a permanent and lasting peace among civilized nations. It bases its thesis on the eventual defeat of Germany by the British Empire and its Allies, without the assistance of the United States.

    However should circumstances decree that the American public cast its ballot in favor of war as a measure of self-defense (and it is the fervent prayer of the author that this may never happen) it would become paramount that the lives of our native sons not be sacrificed in vain as were their fathers' lives a generation ago.

    If our soldiers must go forth to kill or die in battle, at least let them be given not alone a Slogan but a Solemn Purpose and a Sacred Promise.

    Let that Purpose be an Enduring Peace. And, this time, that Promise must be kept!
    Today's War is not a war against Adolf Hitler.
    Nor is it a war against the Nazis.
    It is a war of peoples against peoples; of civilized peoples envisioning Light, against uncivilized barbarians [Germans] who cherish Darkness.

    Of the people of those nations who would surge forward hopefully into a new and better phase of life, pitted against the peoples of a nation who would travel backward enthusiastically into the dark ages. It is a struggle between the German nation and humanity.

    Hitler is no more to be blamed for this German war than was the Kaiser for the last one. Nor Bismarck before the Kaiser. These men did not originate or wage Germany's wars against the world. They were merely the mirrors reflecting centuries-old inbred lust of the German nation for conquest and mass murder.

    This war is being waged by the German People. It is they who are responsible. It is they who must be made to pay for the war. Otherwise, there will always be a German war against the world. And with such a sword forever hanging overhead the civilized nations of the world, no matter how great their hopes, how strenuous their efforts, will never succeed in creating that firm and solid foundation of permanent peace which they must first establish if ever they intend to start the building of a better world.

    For not only must there be no more German wars in fact; there must not even remain the slightest possibility of one ever occurring. A Final Halt to German aggression, not a temporary cessation, must be the goal of the present struggle.

    This does not mean an armed mastery over Germany, or a peace with political or territorial adjustment, or a hope based on a defeated and repentant nation. Such settlements are not sufficiently conclusive guarantees of no more German aggression.

    This time Germany has forced a Total War upon the world.

    As a result, she must be prepared to pay a Total Penalty.

    And there is one, And Only One, such total Penalty: Germany must perish forever!
    In fact --not in fancy!
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    read on here:
    http://www.radioislam.org/germany/index.htm
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    Lucky for the Germans they survived this threat.
    But to call the Germans an uncivilized, barbaric dark-age Nation is the pinnacle of hate and slander.
    And to say Germany had no humanity! Were is your humanity, America or Israel?
    ...inbred lust for conquer and mass murder!! Lies, lies , lies!! I guess Kaufmann wanted to deflect from his own dark soul.
    Now that the Americans with the help of Russia and Britain smashed Germany, how come the Americans still can't keep the peace?

    It is time the truth be told to the new generations!
     
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    That book was in fact published. But let's look more into it, shall we?

    Theodore N. Kaufman was a great many things. A bootlegger, a hustler, and before he was demanding the destruction and sterilization of Germany, he was actually demanding the same thing of everybody in the US (so they would not have to live in a world consumed by war).

    So before talking about this book, one has to realize that the author is more then a little crazy.

    Now let's look at the publisher, Argyle Press. Their entire catalogue is a single book, this one. It's owner and publisher is none other then Theodore N. Kaufman.

    And finally, this is the only book that Theodore N. Kaufman ever wrote.

    So you have a single book, written by some nutcase that wrote no other books, who created a vanity press for the single purpose of publishing this book, and this is supposed to mean something?
     
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    A major newspaper is not credible enough for you.... The article was re posted from the San Francisco Gate.
     
  11. Mushroom

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    It was not an article, it was an opinion piece!

    I could write an opinion piece saying that the Earth is really flat, and if they felt like it they may even print it. That says not a damned thing about it's credibility, because it is not any kind of news report, but opinion.

    Learn to tell the difference between opinion and fact, will ya?
     
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    I simply love it when ignorant people humiliate themselves in public.... Here is the original article which you were too lazy to look up...
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...w4OgBg&usg=AFQjCNFy7VEO1t7o140XiNf9f7lo7cLIyQ
     
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    And instead of giving the Google link, look at the actual link itself, will ya?

    http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Eugenics-and-the-Nazis-the-California-2549771.php

    Here, let me modify it so that the actual location shows up, ok?

    www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Eugenics-and-the-Nazis-the-California-2549771.php

    Now do you really want to try and argue that this is an actual serious article, and not an opinion piece?
     
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    It is not an opinion piece Einstein. It is an article which includes the facts of what happened. Would you care to provide evidence that the things the depicts are not true?
     
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    Yea, that is why it is in the opinion section. All news organizations place serious articles in the opinion section.

    sfgate.com/opinion/article/Eugenics-and-the-Nazis-the-California-2549771.php

    What part of opinion do you simply refuse to grasp?

    Yet it is not opinion. This is why I hate dealing with nazi supporters, they have a serious issue with detachment from reality, and often I question mental illness and impairment.
     
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    Like I said, if you can refute any of the facts of the article do so, if not shut the hell up and go away, as you are annoying people who are trying to discuss the topic intelligently.
     
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