The Resurrection and the Death of Atheism

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    I don't think God is looking for perfect people, but people who are going to seek Him. You also have to strive.
     
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    That seems possible, however I'm not here to critique your god.

    I'm pointing out that according to Matthew (and the testimony of the life of Jesus, frankly) Jesus states a demand that goes beyond "seeking him".

    And, I am interested in that other set of requirements, as to me they form a philosophy that should apply to us all. And, I would say there could be much better focus on those requirements.
     
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    Churches have many false teachings. The Catholic Church teaches salvation by works, many nondenominational churches have charlatans doing hocus pocus. Matthew 24:11

    And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

    1 Timothy 1:4

    Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    They have nothing to do with what God intended.
     
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    Christians create this atheist strawman because they cannot accept that people do not believe in their imaginary god because of lack of evidence. You could not back up the claims you made about the historical evidence for Jesus. It is incredible that anyone really believes the rubbish Christians come out with.
     
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    The arrogance that if there was a god you would have any idea of what he intended is mind boggling, you would have less knowledge of a gods intent than a flea has of the dog it lives on.
     
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    There is a God. Everything in nature has an order and a purpose. There's no other explanation for that other than there is a God. Everyone knows that God exists. But because we all have free will, some people choose to suppress that knowledge so that they can follow their own desires.
     
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    It's common sense that a lot more is expected from spiritual leaders than anyone else. Churches who preach the prosperity gospel don't preach repenting every week, they don't talk about loving one another-they focus on hocus pocus.
     
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    You are doing exactly what I said, making silly assertions about what others think rather than providing the evidence, it is the Christian answer to the tough questions they get.
     
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    Christianity is not declining around the world at all. In fact among the Christian denominations that are global in reach with the exception of the LDS, the portion of their membership in the USA is small.
     
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    You know nothing about the intent of a god nor could you possibly know, but you are to scared to admit it!
     
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    John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
     
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    We have evidence because he gave us a love letter sharing His intent for us with us and He has sent people to be his messengers over time as well.
     
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    Quoting lines from a magic book written by men who had even less concept of the world and a god than you means exactly nothing. You cannot provide evidence so you run to your magic book for gibberish.
     
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    No you do not have evidence you have a magic book written by con artists who are selling you a line or by very ignorant people trying to understand the world at a time when most people could not even read and write.
     
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    People in churches having convulsions is not of God it's demonic. 1 John 4:1

    Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
     
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    Nothing demonic about it just ignorant people working themselves up into a frenzy using religion as their drug, you can see the same thing in nightclubs all over the world.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...reward-centre-nucleus-accumbens-a7446301.html
     
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    The Bible has scientific facts that were there even before people knew about them. https://www.livingwaters.com/scientific-facts-in-the-bible/

     
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    What Catholics may or may not believe about the requirement of faith isn't relevant here.

    I'm saying that the requirements laid out by Jesus in Matthew 25:31-end are given inadequate attention even though Jesus is quoted as stating that the penalty is everlasting hell.

    If you agree here, we could go on to how we can work together on policy issues related to those requirements Jesus laid out.
     
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    People making the kinds of weird sounds they do in churches that do kundalini is demonic talk. It has nothing to do with God.
     
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    What piffle, now if the bible said, there are microscopic organisms that cause disease that would of been useful to mankind but funnily enough it has no such revelations!

    Quoting a liar and charlatan like Ray Comfort does not help your case.
     
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    Nothing that happens in a church has anything to do with a god,it is all man made. Again you would be completely unable to comprehend the intent of a god.
     
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    You cannot blame God for what humans are doing. You are confusing human beings who have a sinful nature with God.
     
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    You think god created humans so if they have a sinful nature who else you going to blame, do you ever think through what you write?
     
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    The Bible has thousands of prophecies that have been fulfilled.
     
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    God speaks to us through His word.
     
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