The Resurrection and the Death of Atheism

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  1. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    God gave us free will. We can't blame God for what we do with our free will.
     
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    That does not explain why he also gave us a sinful nature as you stated, now explain why he gave us a sinful nature and why it is not gods fault he gave us a sinful nature.
     
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    God doesn't create sinners. Humanity chose to disobey God in the garden of Eden and they chose to know good and evil.
     
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    Again all you can do is make pathetic assertions that you cannot back up.

    Jesus likes sleeping with young boys, he told me so. Now do you believe me?
     
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    No it has none that you can show were not fulfilled before the bible was written.
     
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    You stated humans have a sinful nature, is that true or not?
     
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    People lose faith in the church because of their mistakes but that has nothing to do with the Bible.
     
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    The Bible predicted Israel becoming a nation again.
     
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    Do you believe me when I say Jesus likes sleeping with young boys, yes or no?
     
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    Human beings were created sinless but they chose to sin.
     
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    So did Herzl an atheist, difference is he achieved it!
     
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    Do they have a sinful nature, why can you not answer the question?
     
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    kids believe in Santa and other myths when young, some grow out of them, others not so much

    I think Christmas is a good experience for a child to learn to seek the truth on their own - without Santa, there would be no Christmas
     
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    You keep missing the point. I know that others attack your religion, but I am not doing that. I'm not being critical of your belief.

    My own view is that being critical of your religion is not going to accomplish anything.

    What I AM saying is that there is a critically important element of Christianity that is good and that Christians (as well as others) are missing.

    That element is laid out by the Biblical recording of the life of Jesus in general and very explicitly in Matthew 25:31-end.

    Yes, humans are far from perfect.

    However, I don't see Christianity adequately focusing on the directive by Jesus in Matthew 25 - a directive where failure is punishable by everlasting hell, right along with Satan.

    And, I do care about this aspect, this philosophy that Jesus does stand for.

    I'd point out that it is FAR more powerful than the golden rule. Yet, we don't even HEAR about it.
     
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    “I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.” (Ezekiel 34:13)
     
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    Where do the majority of Jews live?
     
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    Romans 5:12

    Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned
    Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/The-Sin-Nature
     
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    You just cannot admit you contradicted yourself so you run back to your magic book and avoid the answer, it is exactly what I predicted, maybe I am a prophet!
     
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    Santa Claus is a replacement for Jesus. Santa and the Easter bunny are appropriate for a winter festival not for honoring Christ.
     
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    Are you asking me why the church didn't help the poor as much as it should have? The church was greedy because they are human beings with a sinful nature.
     
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    Ephesians 4:22
    that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
    Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/The-Sin-Nature
     
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    A sinful nature put there by your god when he created them and which you cannot admit.
     
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    Magic book woo woo is that all you got? How about a couple of spells?

    Try thinking for yourself.
     
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    God gave us the free will to chose between right and wrong because without free will there would be no choice.
     
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    cause maybe they know it's not true, many pretend to believe for a multitude of reasons
     
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