The Russians lied and lied and lied but evidence proved they were guilty. MH-17.

We have all seen our local Putinist propagandists lie about who shot down Malaysian Airlines flight 17 over Ukraine but the evidence proves it was a crime co.mitted by Russia's military forces. Three Russian war criminals are now convicted felons.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/europe/mh17-trial-verdict-intl/index.html

 

I would be very much surprised if Ukrainian military forces have been found guilty in this case.

 

The evidence was overwhelming that it was Russia who was guilty. They even had intercepted radio transmission (sent in the clear because Russia is hopelessly incompetent as always) of the war criminals telling their commanding officer what they just did. So Russia always knew they were the guilty party but chose to lie and deny like they always do.

 

I suspect there may be tantrums and meltdowns in Dwarfstan after this verdict....more missiles (if khujlo has any left), on Ukrainian cities....maybe a "stray or two" on NATO Poland, more generals sacked or tossed outta 6th floor windows?

 

I have some sympathy with them, it is clear they genuinely thought this was a Ukrainian military aircraft, so murderers no, manslaughter, yes,

 

Congrats. Now convince the Malaysians because they don't buy it.

Do you know what color scheme Putin's plane has?

Here's a clue

 

Wtf happened in Kherson Bill?....Zelensky should've been arrested on claimed territory....instead Zelensky arresting collaborators?....wanna see Twitter vid?

 

Kinda like the way the Central Park Five were convicted for crimes they did not commit? Yes, very much so.

What you might have missed back in July 2014 was the BBC coverage, and others, immediately after the event. Within a week or so, it had all been removed because it contradicted the US narrative.

You probably missed the comments by the Spanish air traffic controller working in Ukraine. He quickly posted that he had seen 2 fighters from Ukraine climbing towards MH17. Russian radar showed the same data. Peasant women interviewed by BBC working in the field nearby reported the same climbing jets. Carlos and his post were quickly deleted and he became MIA in the propaganda war. BBC dutifully removed the offending interviews and videos and still shots. One of those videos showed the last 30 seconds of the descending airliner with one engine on fire as though it had taken a AAM up the tail pipe.

The US with all its claims and fancy satellite surveillance never could show a video of a BUK launch. Its propaganda was as absurd as its propaganda that Russia blew up its own gas pipelines, but that's how Nuland's Goons roll.

The still photos of the top surface of the left wing, and of the left side cockpit riddled with cannon fire were also quickly removed, but not before I and many others saw them. By sheer random chance, the top surface of the wing showed the track of one random round fired from behind and at an angle that aligned perfectly with the left side cockpit, which was riddled with other cannon rounds. The Canadian investigator commented on that, but of course he never testified in the Dutch Kangaroo Court.

This story is just one more propaganda narrative by the US government meant to demonize Russia, and came not long after Bush & Co were found guilty of war crimes in Malaysia, and in a separate proceeding in Malaysia, Israel was found guilty of similar charges.

My bet is the climbing fighters were flown by Israeli pilots, but that's just a guess.

 

-Spanish Air traffic controller?....why would a Spaniard be working as a ATC in Ukraine?

-Ukraine fighter jets piloted by Isrealis....wow, you're right...your guess is totally absurd.

-Ukrainian peasant women claiming to see "climbing jets"??....could be any kind of jets....inconclusive at best.

Any other "theories"?

 

They're not theories Zoom, and we both know that.

They are facts that were quickly suppressed by the Deep State. And we both know that too.

 

LOL...yeah sure...they're "facts" ....yet no one can provide any of those ....facts...here?

 

A day or two after MH17 was downed, John Kerry, who was then Secretary of State, got in front of all the media outlets and said the US had that fancy satellite tracking data that showed a missile was shot from 'Russian' territory and thus, the Russians did it.

Of course that was total bovine excrement....no such tracking data exists. So the US government's official narrative was a complete fabrication from the start.

Maybe the sheeple will remember just a few days ago when "US intelligence" proclaimed Russia bombed Poland with "missile(s)". Every media outlet spewed that lie as truth. While all the numb nut warmongers were demanding a US/NATO response....essentially starting WW3....somebody with a cell phone took a picture of the Ukrainian S300 fragment and posted it on the internet. And with that posting, we have likely avoided WW3 or even nuclear war with Russia. One ****ing cell phone picture.....pulled the rug out from under the US government's official lie.

Or the US government lie that Russia was bombing the Zaporozhia nuclear power plant.....that the Russian's occupy and control. It never ends. Some turds in power are always looking to get rich on the backs of civilian deaths.

 

Basically....Mafiosi is responsible for the missile hit in Poland.....Billy....if Mafiosi wasn't sending missiles into Ukraine....this wouldn't have happened.....well argument on your part ...as usual

 

Actually, it was US intelligence who debunked the idea that the missile came from Russia.

 

They didn't debunk . They got caught red-handed and had to memory-hole their "US intelligence" propaganda.

 

I read the link. Seems the ones found guilty were not current members of Ukranian gov't or current members of Russian gov't at the time of the bringing down of the plane.

 

The Russian "Firehose of Falsehood" Propaganda Model
https://www.rand.org › pubs › perspectives

We characterize the contemporary Russian model for propaganda as “the firehose of falsehood” because of two of its distinctive features: high numbers of ...

 

Of course they lied. Lying is the entire premise of the Soviet playbook.

 

Tsk, tsk. You just caused him discomfort with actual facts. That probably hurt a little Bit.

 

No, that's not what happened. Stick to actual facts if you can.

 

So the ones convicted were members of Russian gov't and Ukranian gov't at the time of the bringing down of the plane and they brought down the plane at the behest of each's gov'ts?

 

Furthermore, are you saying that, for example, Julius Rosenberg was an example of US gov't corruption because Julius was a member of the US Army at the time he passed nuclear secrets to the Soviets?

 

Julius Rosenberg was kicked out of the Signal Corps after the Army found out
that Julius was a member of the Young Communist League as was his wife. On orders of the NKVD ( forerunner of the KGB ) Julius and wife recruited his wife’s brother who worked on the Manhattan project into Communist spy cell. Julius and wife gave the Russians secrets on radar, proximity fuses, the entire engineering documents for the P-80 US first operational fighter and ton and tons of top secret information. Why them but not others? That is not American government corruption it is our fight with the evils of Communism , Russianism, and the Soviet Union an enemy nation in more ways than one. Right after the USSR melted down the US declassified a “trove” of documents that showing how horrific their acts of betrayal of “their” country. What gave this case oxygen is that very few spies in the US have been executed. That is not corruption that is stupidity.

 

I have provided those facts, but you're not interested in facts. You are interested ONLY in official conspiracy theories.

 

The US government has been advancing Official Conspiracy Theories pretty much since the end of WWII. The assassinations of JFK, RFK and MLK were all Official Propaganda and none of it true.

Yes, I remember Kerry claiming they could back up their claims with satellite imagery, but they never did. Not one single shred of evidence to back up their claims was ever presented.

The United States of Military Aggression, Propaganda & Deception.