The True HIstory of Christmas

Here is how Christmas actually came about and how it became associated with Jesus.

http://http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

 

Be careful, you'll get a bunch of Christians popping in and crying that you're just trying to ruin their fun!

 

You need to edit your link:

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

 

What is the point of stirring up so much hate? Does the author want Jews to hate Christians? What possible good can come of this?

 

thanks, I'm not sure how that messed up I copies and pasted the entire link. Weird.

 

What's hateful about lisitng facts that prove that Christmas has nothing to do with Chirstianity or Jesus? It's the truth. I would think that Jesus would not want his name associated with holidays that were originally meant to celebrate lawlessness.

 

The symbolism of the evergreen, the candy cane, gift giving etc are meaningful to Christians today in celebrating the birth of the Christ child..

That's really all that matters.

 

I agree with you. The inclusion of the anti-Semitic practices was unnecessary. This happened long ago and no longer applies today.

 

The christmas tree was taken from pagan traditions.

The candy cane and gift giving were added to the holiday in order to associate it with the story of Christ's birth (The sheperds' cane and the gifts that the three wise men brough to Jesus) But they were not added until years later. The earilest christmas celebrations were no different than Saturnalia celebrastions...People just ate, drank, and had sex all day and night. They were not associated with Christ in any way except that the Church claimed that Jesus was born on the day.

 

But now they are.. The ancient past doesn't really matter.

 

Somehow I think you regret that comment .
If not , well done Gengis Khan , Atilla , Adolf , Stalin and Putin .

 

What do they have to do with Christians celebrating the the birth of Christ?

 

See previous
Here we go again .
Another American retard

 

Meaning what?

The symbols like the Christmas tree, gift exchanges, the candy cane are NOT symbolism of paganism.

If you choose NOT to celebrate Christmas, have at it.

 

of course it does. The history is always important...Anyone who says it's not will e doomed to make the same mistakes they always have.

Making up lies to associate a holiday with your religion does not mean that the holiday is any more meaningful than it was before.

Today, the Christmas season has become nothing more than a corporately owned holiday where people attack each other for 10 dollar dvd players. it's lost alot of it's "good will" and "giving" aspects a long time ago.

And people still carry out many of the pagan aspects of the Saturnalia, such as gluttony and binge drinking on Christmas too...You see alot more of those than any Christian add ons

 

Perhaps Christmas is a "corporately owned" holiday for YOU.It may even be a time of drunkenness and gluttony for YOU..

There was a time in history when the Swastika was a symbol for good luck for 3200 years and used my many cultures around the world.

 

Have you read the Talmud? It is regarded by Jews as their holiest of books and even supersedes The Torah in importance. Here are some quotes from this 'holy' of books.

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel." ( Mostly billions of American tax dollars)

"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':

1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

Not very pro Christian is it? I see the Menorah has replaced the Christmas tree on the lawns of the White House and they want to replace the festive message of Happy Christmas with Happy Holidays. What is going on, how can a tiny minority representing only 2% f your population have such a disproportoionate control of your country. They have your political system by the balls and get you to fight their wars for them through the AIPAC lobby. They run your media,hollywood and federal reserve system Where are the Christians and why aren't they fighting back!?

 

By the way: Is it really true that many older and more dement growing Americans are thinking 'Santa Claus' is a myth although he was once the bishop of Myra?

http://youtu.be/IXiB9f_TqdQ

 

Reminds me of a lengthy post I wrote on Facebook....

 

There are several people throughout history that make up the legend of Santa Claus. He is just one of them.

 

Like most things Christian, we turned complete lawlessness to civility and compassion. The Church has a history of doing so, in fact had they not converted the folks here in the Americas you would be a cannibal, worshipping rocks and sacrificing your wives and kids and eating your enemy still.

Of course, we can't teach how the Catholic Church actually brought civilization to the Americas. That is to heavily biased in the age of "diversity".

 

I am pretty sure Saint Nicholas was 1 person.

 

You mean like the Conquistadors brought civilization to the Americas?

 

Lets not forget Christopher Colombus.

 

Wow. another hating thread. Mods please lock this after i'm done.


Christmas is a catholic style celebration. It's more european and German. All of the stuff we see in christmas here, like santa claus, elfs, trees and such are decorations to celebrate gifts. That's not christian. It's commercialism and religious. I'm not religious.

I'm a christian, I celebrate the birth of jesus with a nativity scene. Doesn't matter what day he was born in December. Being accurate doesn't matter, I know he was born in December that's all that matters to me. It's hard to be accurate when it was so long ago. And I get that.


Now the mods can lock this thanks.