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The True HIstory of Christmas

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Daggdag, Dec 3, 2011.

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  1. GeddonM3

    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    dude looks awesome lol, i think we need to redo our Santa also, its time for him to move into the new age lol.
     
    GeddonM3, Dec 6, 2011
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    Dutch Santa Claus

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    Margot, Dec 6, 2011
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  3. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    How does whether or not I drink wine have anything to do with me being a hipocrit again? I never said I don't drink so, how is it hipocritical if I do?
     
    Daggdag, Dec 7, 2011
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    LOL epic fail.
     
    efjay, Dec 7, 2011
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  5. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    I see you are back. Why aren't you banned???
     
    jedimiller, Dec 7, 2011
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  6. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    Who are you talking to?
     
    Daggdag, Dec 7, 2011
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  7. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    Religious people created wine for religious purposes. Vampire tribes, cults performed masses based on blood and wine. drink the wine, drink the blood. In Germany and in many underground places in europe there are groups of people who drink wine and blood to feast and celebrate evil creatures and the devil. It can be used for positive and negative properties. Christians use it to represent the blood of jesus, satanists use it to think they are drinking the blood of lucifer and other demons.
     
    jedimiller, Dec 7, 2011
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    Why on earth would i be banned
     
    efjay, Dec 7, 2011
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  9. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    Wine was not created by religiou people it was created as a drink, just like beer and mead and whiskey. There are very few religions that actually consider wine sacred in and of itself.
     
    Daggdag, Dec 7, 2011
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    OMG you really believe that?

    Wine PREDATES your silly cult by a long way bud.
     
    efjay, Dec 7, 2011
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    UM no bud.
    Have a read here and you will see that wine predates your silly cult by a long way

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...ine-press-making-winery-armenia-science-ucla/

     
    efjay, Dec 7, 2011
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  12. jedimiller

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    YOU fail to realize that the people who made wine were religious...probably part of a church or a religion going back even to egypt and sumeria, greece. etc. all of those early cultures believed in god or Gods and drank to celebrate their gods with wine and bread. Drinking wine is a religious practice. get over it.
     
    jedimiller, Dec 7, 2011
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    It may have been used for that ASWELL but it was not created for religious purposes, get used to it.
     
    efjay, Dec 7, 2011
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    Prove it??? Prove to me that wine was NOT created for religious practices..and I'll shut up.
     
    jedimiller, Dec 7, 2011
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    Your the one making the claim that it was so PROVE it..
    While you are at it can you do us a favour and prove god? if you cant you should shut up.

    As you have read in my past post i disproved your "wine was a jebus thing" ...you failed and are now on the backfoot.
     
    efjay, Dec 7, 2011
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    So, the fact that the people who first made wine held a religious believe it automaticaly makes it a religious drink.....


    Does that mean that planes are a Christian? I mean, the Wright Brothers were Christian..so using your logic it inventions follow the religous of their inventors.
     
    Daggdag, Dec 7, 2011
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    I don't think you will find common sense a feature within modern Christianity .
    Symbolically , followers will swallow most things -- a virgin birth and the resurrection pose no concerns !!!!!
    They will even tell you that Jesus was a humble carpenter though there is a stack of evidence showing him to have been directly of the House of David , despite the followers of John the Baptist considering he was an illegitimate heir due to the "Virgin" birth --- Mary conceived outside of the time Essene law demanded.
    Master Builder is a far accurate translation and in his father's footsteps .
     
    raymondo, Dec 7, 2011
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  18. jedimiller

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    I rated this thread...TERRIBLE. One star.
     
    jedimiller, Dec 7, 2011
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    Others would perhaps not even vote you one star .
    You may have ignorance to support your faith but that that is no excuse for you to try and then ram your superstitions and factually incorrect beliefs down other people' sensibilities .
    You need to a lot more reading and studying of all the texts that impinge on this subject before proselytising your odd views .
     
    raymondo, Dec 7, 2011
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  20. jedimiller

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    Ray. I'm not here to get votes or acceptance. ok?
     
    jedimiller, Dec 7, 2011
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    Great post!
    I wanted to give you a rep, but they won't let me! I'm suppose to "spread them around!"

    But, having read many of your posts, I'm certain that it is not the last time that I want to give you a rep!
     
    Sadanie, Dec 9, 2011
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    The author Lawrence Kelemen is an Orthodox rabbi and international lecturer. Funny that he would devote so much time trashing Christmas..............
     
    Margot, Dec 9, 2011
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