The Trump Search Warrant

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Because none have been provided. You've provided links that show he SAID he complied, but the fact the he still had the documents IS OBJECTIVE PROVE HE DIDN'T COMPLY AND THAT HE IS LYING ABOUT COMPLYING. Come on, man. This ain't rocket surgery. Why are you pretending you can't understand?

    Like copy/paste more of Trump's lies while refusing to do even a modicum of fact checking or even spending 5 minutes to think about them first? Cool. That's a game alright, but it ain't tag.
     
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    Any bets on whether the TS/SCI stuff is related to Russiagate?
     
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    Never made that argument. My argument is that Trump will not choose DeSantis or vice versa. These two guys are alpha males politically and neither will consider the other as a running mate because both have the ability to cause dysfunction politically as their running mate if they so choose to. Neither Trump nor DeSantis wants competition from the other. They want absolute loyalty and compliance rom others and not of themselves. That is why they were never together in the same ticket.
     
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  4. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, yeah, last verse the same as the first with you.
    "Stop the squeal and lock him up", right?
     
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    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Stranger things have happened.
    Did you ever think a woman who strongly implied Biden is a racist would be on his ticket? (not that she was wrong, btw lol)
     
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    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Of course, it is... Just more #russiacollusiondelusion. What's the definition of insanity?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    If you would absorb the facts than I wouldn't need to repeat him.

    With regards to Trump's fake elector scheme, yes. For this? I'd need more info before saying whether or not he should be locked up for it.
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Not really. The TSSCi documents cannot be declassified by Trump even if he wanted to. There is a 25-year limit before that can be done and the issuing agency is the only one who is authorized to declassify them. Eventually, Trump will need to sign an executive order to do so if he wanted them declassified earlier than that time frame.
     
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    Uh oh. Now seeing stories that the warrant shows DOJ is investigating possible Espionage Act violations.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Possibly the ones in Russian.

    (On KGB Letterhead and signed "From your BFF Vladdy")
     
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    Trump does not think that way and neither does DeSantis. Trump will say, "I need a woman" and will choose someone like Gov Noem as his running mate. DeSantis will say, "I need a woman who thinks like me" and will choose a woman who thinks like him and did not run for President, like Sarah Palin for instance.
     
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    Do you realize that Trump was not responsible for packing up those documents yet? Do you understand yet that when the FBI came to get the documents in June that they left some behind instructing Trump to just lock up the rest? Do you realize that the DOJ, a political arm imho of the Biden administration, will have to prove Trump's willful intent to commit espionage, theft of government property?

    As I said, we need to see the affidavit.
     
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    Trump received a subpoena for those documents.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think I see where this is going:

    ...

    "We’ve told him there’s a process and not following it could be a problem but he didn’t care because he thinks this stuff is dumb,” the source said. “His attitude is that he is the president. He is in charge of the country and therefore national security. So he decides.”

    Bradley Moss, a lawyer who specializes in national security issues, said, "That's not how it works."

    "Trump could say we're declassifying this until he's blue in the face, but no one is allowed to touch those records until the markings are addressed," said Moss, a frequent Trump critic on Twitter.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/trump-allies-declassified-mar-lago-231609255.html

    Trump always overestimated his powers as President and failed to appreciate any law or regulation that stood in his way, and that evidently applies to how he chose to handle classified information, both during and after his term. He never went through a formal process to declassify the documents.

    But, thanks to other reporting, it seems there are also other, perhaps more serious charges being investigated.
     
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    There is really one reason and only one reason to have TSSCI documents in your possession outside of the office. That is to sell them in exchange for something in return. The guy's name is Robert Hassan, a former FBI agent who was caught with this type of document and actually selling it to the Russians.
     
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    What, no nuke secrets?
     
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    This isn't a big deal. Clinton did it and it was ok.
     
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    No. Neither Clinton has done what your beloved tyrant has done.
     
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    The FBI planted that stuff
     
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    I am just going to guess that another nothing burger will be added to the pile.
     
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    Good Lord, you've already assigned motive without even having seen the goods, absent of concrete evidence. The actual TSSCI document or proof of Trump's motivation for having such in his possession.

    Just more Russian collusion nonsense, all of which has hurt this country beyond repair.
     
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    With a little help from their secret team of chupacabra riding leprechaun operatives, no doubt
     
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    It may or may not, but this thread delivers a wheel barrel full of nothing burgers.
     
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    That is Trump. When Trump built the Taj Mahal in New Jersey, he literally did this to contractors who built the Taj Mahal. If the contract said $100k for this work, the contractor would get paid first and then Trump will decide to pay him the rest or not. And that usually was the case he gave in an interview in mid-90s I believe, when these lawsuits were being filed by the contractors to get paid with a partial payment and then in full per the contract completed. But Trump decided to not do that and decide when and how much they should be paid based on "his mood."

    https://theweek.com/articles/783976/brief-history-trumps-smalltime-swindles
     
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    How do we know they didn't? This whole thing stinks to high heaven when you go back and put the pieces together.
     
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