THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Monash

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    Firstly I literary don't know what the 'jealous' comment referred to.

    As for 'held back' how do you account for the fact that 1700 modern Russian BMT's have been visually confirmed and geo-located as having been destroyed, captured and or abandoned by Russia. And Russia only had aprox 3300 or so MBT's in service when the war began! Add in 10 to 20% as damaged/abandoned on the Russian side of the lines? And about 2000 Russian MBT's have been knocked out of service! As for the T-64s that have been destroyed? They have been crewed and deployed by existing Russian Army military units not militia. Explain that away.
     
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    Wagner Group releases graphic video of corpses in desperate plea for more ammunition

    Nataliya Vasilyeva
    Fri, February 17, 2023 at 2:44 PM CST

    The Wagner Group released a video of a stack of corpses on Friday to make a point about the shortage of ammunition it was facing, as its leader said he would risk arrest to get his fighters more shells and bullets.

    The graphic clip, posted by a Telegram account linked to the Russian mercenary group, showed hundreds of dead bodies – allegedly of Wagner fighters – to show the human cost of the ammunition shortage.

    “We’re losing our fighters every day: it would be half as much if the military officials were to supply us with weapons and ammunition on time,” an unidentified man in a hazmat suit said in the video.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/wagner-group-releases-graphic-video-180617426.html

    How's that "mopping up" going? :smoking:
     
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    Believe what you will. In these days of competing propaganda, everything is contested. Your link doesn't show a video. It only discusses an alleged video about alleged Wagner dead.

    The link at the end of this post does have a video of many dead bodies. They're not stacked and there's no hazmat suits, but yeah, lots of dead bodies. They're likely casualties of the recent Russian (Wagner) victory at Soledar.

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    Wagner sources shared another video showing more than a hundred killed servicemen of the armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the coffins, which will be transferred to Ukraine as part of the agreements.

    The dead Ukrainian servicemen were likely deployed in the Bakhmut-Soledar region, where the Wagner units are operating on the Russian side.

    Earlier, another video showing the loading of coffins on trucks was shared by Russian fighters. LINK

    In January, the Wagner military commanders claimed that the transfer of bodies took place in coordination with the Ukrainian side. In total, up to 4-5 batches were planned. Then, about 500 bodies were likely transferred.

    The newly shared video likely confirms that the agreement on transfer of dead Ukrainian servicemen is still in action and the bodies are sent on a regular basis.

    Head of the Wagner Group Yevgeny Prigozhin had earlier declared the need for decent sending of bodies to their relatives.

    https://www.theinteldrop.org/2023/02/16/wagner-to-return-thousands-of-nazi-dead-killed-at-bakhmut/
     
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    Russian disinformation and how it tries to fool people.

     
  5. Monash

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    And in other recent news European natural gas prices have hit an 18-month low.

    https://www.ft.com/content/3bb53193-...6-c2781dff1ea0

    This is great news. Not only will it have a soothing impact on European inflation rates it's also another kick in the balls for Putin and Russia's war time economy, doubly so because the bulk of Russia's natural gas infrastructure is orientated towards Europe and with that market collapsing it will be years before an equivalent volume of gas can be delivered to other markets.
     
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    ....and when Russia can deliver it be in a buyer's market. Nothing says 'bargain time' like a motivated seller. Xi & Modi might make noises about historic friendships, alliances etc., but neither run charities. Same with all the other buyers. They will sense an opportunity to lock in long term contracts at knock down prices. Russia will still get its money, but not as much.
     
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    Nope, especially since Russia gas exporters will almost certainly have to borrow the money needed to fund construction of what will amount a very expensive capital investment. And guess what those bankers will want in return - ever cheaper gas.
     
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    So is Russia still mopping up on aisle 4?
     
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    Video about Russia's kidnapping of Ukrainian children, attempting to brainwash and indoctrinate them, as well as Russian attempts to commit cultural genocide and other crimes against humanity.

     
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    How's this working out for you there, comrade?
     
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    Great.
     
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    Russian Shopping Mall During Sanctions in 2023
     
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    That's nice, but of course sanctions aren't aimed at the Russian people and consumer goods. They're aimed at hobbling your military-industrial complex.



    And they're working. :)
     
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    Ukrainian missiles hit fleeing Russian soldiers in infantry fighting vehicle


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    Malls don't win wars. Word is that you guys are having to turn off some oil fields, many in the frozen tundra. Good luck turning them back on, and good luck when you computer needs a repair. Oh, now that I think about it, how is your inventory of tanks? 1960s models don't count...
     
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    A great look at the corruption and evil which is the Putin regime.

     
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    And to think that not a single Russian soldier has had to pay the price.
     
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    Russia's failing economy.

     
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    Ahahaha... :roflol::roflol::roflol:What, do they really say that? ....:roflol::roflol::roflol:
    Do not read Western media, it is bad for the brain.
     
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    The EU didn't get that cold hard winter Russian sympathizers kept harping about. Nobody suffered outside of Ukraine.
     
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    Ukraine: Odesa, bent but not broken a year after the Russian invasion • FRANCE 24 English


    I've had the pleasure of visiting Odesa. It's a crime against humanity, of course, what the ruZZian naZi fascists are doing to people there, forcing them to be without power in the freezing cold.

    @Bill Carson 's heroes are doing this to innocent families all over Ukraine and he thinks that's just dandy.
     
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    A Historian of the Future: Five More Questions for Stephen Kotkin


    Historian Stephen Kotkin became the Kleinheinz Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution in 2022. He taught at Princeton for more than 30 years, and is the author of nine works of history, including the first two volumes of his biography of Joseph Stalin, Paradoxes of Power, 1878 to 1928 and Waiting for Hitler, 1929 to 1941. He is now completing the third and final volume. Since the war in Ukraine broke out a year ago, Kotkin has appeared regularly on Uncommon Knowledge with Peter Robinson to offer his unique perspective on the Russian aggression and answer five questions for us. This is the third installment. ​
     

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