THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. ricmortis

    ricmortis Well-Known Member

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    I am sure no prisoner of Guantanamo had their balls cut off or were sliced with knives as part of their interrogation. I don't know if any were flat out murdered like the Russians have done to many prisoners.
     
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    As far as I read they used water boarding, according to e.g. Murat Kurnaz, who was kept there, one prisoner he knew there was beaten so bad, that a leg had to be amputated afterwards. There were more and more restrictions added, but in its early time you could imo refer to Guantanamo as a torture camp. The same goes for Abu Ghraib, etc. There have been human rights violations of US forces in many wars you could refer to as war crimes and I would do so.

    However, I cannot see US politics of ethnic cleansing and genocide how its done by Russia in the Ukraine right now. As the Iraq is often given as a reference, the US never invaded Iraq to purge it from its population and integrate it as US territory. They didnt try to systematically take babies from their Iraqi mothers and bring them into the US to raise them as Americans to make Iraqis disappear as an ethnicity. They didnt try to force their language on them. They didnt systematically and indiscriminately kill Iraqi POWs and civilians alike. Those incidents which occurred were later on subjects of prosecution.
     
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    If you're talking summary execution, then NATO is the worst culprit. Most detainees are shot in the head without the need for interrogation, much akin to ethnic cleansing. Whistleblowers have attested to this practice
     
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    Yawn, some people sure do love posting fiction.
     
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    There was a panorama (BBC) documentary on it recently. NATO death squads executing detainees.

    If BBC, a pro Ukrainian website, is mentioning it then it must be so well known it can't be hidden any longer.
     
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    ?
     
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  7. Bill Carson

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    :bored:

    Gennadiy Druzenko, head of Ukrainian military medical service, boasts on Ukraine 24 channel that he "gave strict orders to castrate all the wounded" Russians "because they are cockroaches, not humans."

     
  8. Durandal

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    From "上帝之灵 God Knows The Truth"

    Actual Chinese propaganda :lol:

    https://www.youtube.com/@godknowsthetruth9580/videos

    It's the full standard package of pro-Muscovy, pro-Trump, anti-NATO, anti-Trudeau and anti-Democratic propaganda.
     
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  9. Durandal

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    Hunt For Russian Armor: Ukrainian Drone Reconnaissance In The Donbas


    :)
     
  10. USVet

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    Putinist always accuse others of exactly what they do. Putin's forces shoot down a civilian airliner and Putinists lie and claim other people did it. Russians carry out mass executions and rapes of civilians so Putonists lie and claim other people are doing it too. Russians post videos castrating and executing P.O.W.s so now Putonists lie and claim other people are doing it to.

    The reality is it is only Russia committing war crimes. Putin himself orders the war crimes. Fact.
     
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    Pravda, duzhe Pravda. - True, very true!
     
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    Sad, so sad how some people believe such absolute untruths and total fiction. Sounds like a QANON “documentary “ no reasonable adult would believe such nonsense.
     
  13. Durandal

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    I'll have to assume this is completely fabricated. Sounds pretty absurd.
     
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    It is. Russians just lie and make up fake nonsense to try to distract people from the very real war crimes Russia deliberately commits every single day.
     
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    Pretty sad when it is broadcast on ukrainian national television, straight from the nazi's mouth....and the sheeple come to make excuses and claim "Propaganda!!"
     
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    Amazing isn't it, how ppl totally deny facts, not even politicians are that bad.
     
  17. Esau

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    NATO commits war crimes. Fact.

    Therefore your comment is not factual.
     
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    Keep bumping the topic though. Good job.
     
  19. Durandal

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    It does get funnier and funnier, so I agree.
     
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    Russia disinformation looks to US far right to weaken Ukraine support
    The Kremlin is deploying new tactics by drawing on favorite themes and conspiracy theories of rightwing Republicans

    As Russia’s ruthless war against Ukraine has faced major setbacks since it began a year ago, the Kremlin has deployed new disinformation themes and tactics to weaken US support for Kyiv with help from conservative media stars and some Republicans in Congress, according to new studies and experts.

    Moscow’s disinformation messages have included widely debunked conspiracy theories about US bioweapon labs in Ukraine, and pet themes on the American right that portray the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, as an ally in backing traditional values, religion and family in the fight against “woke” ideas.

    Further, new studies from thinktanks that track disinformation have noted that alternative social media platforms such as Parler, Rumble, Gab and Odysee have increasingly been used to spread Russian falsehoods since Facebook and Twitter have imposed more curbs on Moscow’s propaganda.

    ... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/16/russia-disinformation-us-far-right-republicans-ukraine
     
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  21. USVet

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    You are a fool if you think they only target the mythical "far right" (which apparently now means anyone not a communist) because they target everyone with their disinformation campaigns. The "far left" has been their primary target for decades especially the idiots in the green movement.
     
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    I call a spade a spade, an untruth an untruth. You want to believe untruths do at you own peril.
     
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    The Greens are indeed whacked out especially in Europe. I have a feeling that the Greens are operating under the radar in the US. Canada I don’t know.
     
  24. Esau

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    Icall a spade a spade, an untruth an untruth. You want to believe untruths do at you own peril.
     
  25. Esau

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    This is the clear problem for USA though, poor intelligence. We can all see it.
     

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