The war between the US and Europe.

LOL.. With me it's mathematics.

 

That's an interesting philosophy, but you may be surprised to learn that, at least in my country, Americans are by no means hated. I think we do not understand some of your values, and much of how your society operates, but I have never seen anything approaching hatred. You are much like family who has decided to run away and wish to have nothing more to do with us - but family, nonetheless.

I wasn't old enough to drive when I was there, but yes, I found the multi-laned motorways impressive (and confusing), and even urban roads are very wide. But then American cars tend to be very big and wide too, so I guess you need them.

I'm glad to hear that you would not be going on a guided tour when you are in Europe. Sure you get to see historical sites with some ease, but you do not get to experience the culture. We have American friends of the family in the US (I stayed with them when I was there) and one of them is a frequent traveller. But she books everything from the US, and travels on US airlines, on US coach tours, stays with US hotel chains, and spends her time with other American tourists, wherever she is in the world. The only English people she has ever conversed with are my family and me. As a result, she has no idea how British, or French, or German, etc. society operates and thinks.

I think you might mean the Battle of Hastings which took place in East Sussex (a county next door to Kent - where we live), and Battle Abbey is a good place to visit for people interested in the Norman Conquest.

And, LOL, don't worry about 20 years - I have at least another 5 years of university ahead of me. I just turned 18, so I guess I will be around in another twenty years, but I might be getting a bit old by then. So you may have to put up with a crusty old barrister, rather than a school kid.

 

I've lived in Europe twice. I learned that if you set politics, attitudes, and points of view aside, Europeans are just regular folks trying to navigate thru life the best they can, just like Americans.

That being said, the majority of euros on this site, are arrogant idiots who seem to suffer from a raging superiority complex, that's pretty much undeserved.
On the other hand, there are some that come across as very intelligent and insightful, as well as being well mannered.

 

Churchill was begging the U.S. to get involved and help them beyond the lend lease program. Personally I could care less if Hitler took over and kept France and Britain. The only difference to us would be ya'all would be wearing Leiderhosen and eating Sauerbraten.

Please remind me why my uncle should have died saving the Brits fro the Germans?

 

had a convo not too long ago with a middle aged chap here who was from england forget which exact country in the UK but he had the british accent so after awhile found out he moved and had a career here and got dual citizenship etc...but it was surprising as i assumed they have it great in england with all the social benefits why would anyone want to move to the United States from europe?

so he told me it is okay in england but that he came here because its harder there to get rich or move up in life and i found that very interesting as it assumes that conservative Americans have some sort of point about the "european welfare state"

after we parted ways i pretty much thought he was maybe a more of a conservative or as the UK calls them "liberal" british man and that he didn't represent the views or thoughts of most of the UK people

 

So, what Australian planes did you fly against the Japanese when they attacked Darwin, Broome and north Queensland?

 

In my opinion, we would be better off with a more perfect Union of States bound together for their mutual welfare.

What objection is there to a federal UN, with a US style Constitution?

 

When? At what point in History did this occur? Please, enlighten me...

 

I didn't fly any planes, I wasn't even born then.

 

I think most Americans, if asked, saw the IRA as a terrorist group, pure and simple. There have been pockets of mostly Irish-Americans who have supported the IRA, but don't spin this as a majority of the country.

 

And yet the IRA was principally funded and supported by Americans (and Libyans) for decades, and Jerry Adams was given a ticker tape parade in New York at a time when no European leader, including the President of the Republic of Ireland, would grant him a meeting.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/alexmassie/3239896/the-united-states-and-the-ira.thtml

 

Your uncle died because the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour, and a few days after that, Germany declared war on the USA. He died fighting a nation with which his country was at war.

The RAF fought the Battle of Britain without the help of the US, and that battle saved my country from invasion. Without air superiority, no sea-borne invasion is capable of success, and the Royal Navy was much more powerful than the Kriegsmarine.

 

with all respect imo if the US did not end world war 2 quickly with a nuclear bomb germany would have forced britian and france into submission and taken over their lands, they would have then taken the role of the soviet union as the soviets would have also collapsed earlier than after the cold war with americans to the germans

today germany would have been the equivalent super power as Russia and the US would have had a cold war with them instead and probably what would have ended up happening today is that all the countries under german control would have disbanded like the soviet union did

 

I think you might be confusing cause and effect. If you'll notice, a lot of the posters on this forum from all over the world on here constantly attack America. Anything we say in response is typically just standing up for ourselves.

Now having said that, I can't speak for anyone else, but my only real problem with Europe / Europeans / U.K. / whoever is their attitude toward America. It seems to exist both in real life and on the internet. Most (not all) of the brits I've met in person have this condescending attitude toward America even if they are visiting here at the time. It almost seems like they have this need to make sure we all "know" how much better the U.K. is than America. It comes across as very try-hard and overcompensating.

I do think many things about their way of life are ridiculous and counterproductive as they are further left even than left wing Americans, but since I do not live there, I don't really care that much. That's their thing. It only affects me indirectly when American libs start trying to copy it here.

 

It's the other way around.

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Brilliant post by Flag, says it all really...


Americans think very little about the rest of the world, if they think at all. Their media tell them virtually nothing valuable about foreign countries - and for good reason - it might worry them.

Take for example, the health care debate. Was there any mature discussion of the good and bad points of the healthcare systems of other countries? Nope.

All you were told was that single payer public systems of universal healthcare were "impossible" or "Too expensive". Anyone who tried to explain otherwise was "a liar".

For example, I even tried to explain how my girlfriend was diagnosed with colon cancer and then had surgery and now chemotherapy with a very good prognosis and all for "free"* The treatment she has received and continues to receive is worlds best practice - I know, I can do my research. And what happens? Some hick form America calls me a liar and then tries to suggest that the American health system wouldn't have let her get cancer in the first place! Exactly how much further into denial can Americans go?

To paraphrase the old saying; most Americans don't know what they don't know.

* Free? Well not actually. Everyone pays a 1.5% levy on their taxeable income every year to pay for Medicare. We have private hospitals and private health insurance at reasonable prices as well for those that want a little "extra' my Mom was paying about $3000 per year for "platinium" private health cover.

 

agreed with european health care and american health care it seems that since america is so diverse many of them fear if they pay into a system for everyone they will end up taking care of some foreigner and that is the absolute worst thing to them

 

Amusing, but I'm not sure what it has to do with the anti-American sentiments of many here.


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Dude, really, you're a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing broken record.
Nobody gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) about your girlfriend and her colon cancer, or how much it cost to cure her ass cancer.

You foreign nitwits don't get it, it's not that we think we are better than anyone, it just we don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about what you arrogant pricks have to say.

So spare us with your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing advise already.

 

Your just a laugh a minute. What planes did the Aussies use to defend the country during WWII?

 

I guess many poms are still dreaming America is a Britain colony.

 

Who is the arrogant here?
Americans are clearly the most arrogant sob's in the world and that is why everyone hates them.

Resume:

 

Partly true. If the U.S. hadn't shown up to blast Hitlers war production off the face of the map with precision day time bombing, the German war machine would have kept on producing war material. Then it would be a matter of who could sustain production at a higher level long enough. The British bombing was done at night and was aimed at genocide to win the war, not the destruction of war material production.

Had the war continued without the intervention of the U.S. it's doubtful the Brits would have kept their air superiority for much longer. They continued to build the Sptifire, while a fine performing plane at the onset of the war (Max speed 378 mph), would have been decimated by the 900 mph Me 262 the war had the war continued. That's why Churchill was so desperate for the U.S. to join the war not just supply the Brits with their material they needed to build the RAF.

 

How'd the USSR work out for ya?